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So I've been here since March except a week in Prague and I'm finally getting around to getting some wheels. It needs to be all-purpose DD, some trips, good for at least tractor roads.

So here's how the Slavs do it apparently:


Lada jumping - YouTube
 
Lots of YouTube clips showing Nivas doing the things we take for granted with decent LCs but I thought the above was kinda special.

Here's one of the ones I'm looking at. Probably the keeper if it checks out in person:

Lada Niva 1700, 2003 god.
 
can u import that or are you in dalmatia permanently?
 
Dude that thing is badass Bill... I wonder how many times you can jump that before it finally goes all the way over
 
Very cool beans Bill. stay safe and of course have fun!
Im sure paddington will get a few poser shots to share with us.
 
I'm getting pretty stoked. Road trip to Zagreb and over towards Belgrade to look at two on Tuesday.
I'm pretty sure I'll buy one then.

Meanwhile here's a more realistic clip of what I'll be doing where there's no natural gorilla half-pipes for catching air.

This happens to be probably the first outing we'll take when we venture beyond the island and the city.

Lada Niva - Jungle Boogie in Istra, Croatia - YouTube
 
Dude that thing is badass Bill... I wonder how many times you can jump that before it finally goes all the way over

Didn't say that was the first dude that tried. Also didn't say he didn't sproing something.
 
Update: I will probably keep a little build/bombproof/expedtion setup thread. Haven't decided if to do it here or on the expedition forum. Meanwhile:
Checklist for Niva pre-purchase:
/Place to work on it. Check. Abandoned Yugoslav Air Force Base near town <1000m apparently admin. by the town and available for 'public' use includes grease pit, concrete ramps, port-a-jon, dumpster.
/Parts and mechanic: Check. Nearby village has Lada mechanic who can get authentic parts next-day-ferry and works cheap. Or can order parts to be delivered to me by next-ferry.
/Pick-and-pull. Looking. This could be harder, could be that used auto disposal is a federal operation. But there are tons of Nivas in Croatia. Donor cars are probably <$500.
BTW I'll probably pay ~2500Eu for what I buy which will be +/- 10 yrs old +/- 100,000km well-maintained and problem free. And with the gas conversion (autogas costs nearly half as petrol here). Will still run on petrol too of course.


Future plans/projects:
/Trailer: Tons of little farm trailers, some boat trailers around. Fab shop across the street, workshop in basement, I can make a little camper cum motorcycle/boat rig easy peasy cheapsy. JP style so to speak. The Niva has factory hitch/trailer wiring already.
/Bombproofing: I've been reading up hours worth of Niva and general expedition threads and am convinced I can make this thing look pedestrian but underneath be a baja bomber.
/Wheeling build: At the moment probably nothing outwardly apparent.
-Minor lifting is very easy and cheap but about 1-1.5" is about all you can get without doing body work for articulation clearance. But these things start with >10" @ front and ~9.5" @ rear punkin so that should be fine for now. Later when I need tires anyway. This lift gives you a one size bigger tire.
-This one I want doesn't have the factory sliders (fall-back choice does) but, again, easy peasy to make or cut from donor and weld on .
-Power is ~80hp/100ft# and eternal if properly maintained. It's an old Fiat design re-imagined by Soviet engineers for the steppes and arctic. But there are a number of swaps out there from old 2.0 DOHC Fiat mills to blown 500hp PSAs.
I don't see any probs with power for our use plans. But . . . it's out there.
-The tranny is an old 4spd with added 5th which again if maintained and managed is bullet-proof.
-The drive system:
--The transfer case is also pretty fail-proof properly maintained and aligned (more later on that) and may have a special bonus if what I've heard is correct. Apparently the center diff is a soviet designed Torsen type box. This means it's open until slippage then it applies the lost power to the gripping end. This is what I bought the six-speed (M6) for in my FJC. At BMW we put them in the center on X5s in 99 and added to the rear diffs of the X6 later. It also locks if you actually 'want' to spin some wheels*.
--The axle diffs are open. There are lockers available (even some high-end Torsen types like the center) but with stock axles I don't see the expense unless one breaks and I change them all for upgrades.
--Tires: Stock were some very gnarly Russian mud cum tractor tires or regular radials, probably 185/?/16s. Those should do for now. The russian ones were tubed so you can let them down to nothing for bogs or snow. One of the Nivas I'm going to see tomorrow comes with a spare set of the old russian farm tires but the one I'll probably buy doesn't I guess. There should be some around or you can put regular 16" tractor tires if you really don't care about driving pavement.
-Armor: There's a decent skid plate/curb feeler under the front, otherwise you just drag. I can probably make a rear diff guard and maybe put some sliders on the rear stab bars. The mounts protect the center diff and tranny somewhat. Otherwise I'll just take it easy and if something rubs much I'll fix it and make a plate for next time. I never hear about suspension parts breaking under normal use, which in this case means fairly severe abuse.
-Articulation: We'll see, I think it's pretty good because after 2" of lift you start getting into the wheel shrouds. Apparently the front whatchamacallit that goes across and links your front suspension bits can be taken off readily and gives another inch or few but feelings are mixed about how much that messes up the road ride. I can probably make it a disconn fairly easily.

There was something else but enough for now.

*These devices are often used in high-performance all-wheel-drive vehicles. Like the viscous coupling, they are often used to transfer power between the front and rear wheels. In this application, the Torsen is superior to the viscous coupling because it transfers torque to the stable wheels before the actual slipping occurs.HowStuffWorks "Locking and Torsen"
BTW if I'm understanding right Torsen is branded, generic is Automatic Torque Biasing and full-name would be an ATB/LSD (limited slip diff). Something I wonder why LC wheelers don't have.
 
On the list: camera.
--But for the moment there are links above about Nivas and pics on my Facebook page of our town.

I forgot on my post #9:
--Winch: I'm thinking a small boat winch, electric or manual self-tailer. There must be some nautical salvage yards around here, Croatia has thousands of fishing boats and yachts including the largest charter sailing fleet in the world. There are some 1200 islands and several hundred miles of coast. Fishing, shipyards and commercial fleets are a major part of the economy, not long ago it was their primary income but now it's surpassed by tourism. Lotsa boats.
I would mount it on a receiver and weld in another up front. Make a quick-change baseplate and you've got a mount for a field vise and other stuff.

More later.
 
Pics: The one in post #2 has been relegated to third place. Jeri doesn't like the boyracer flares and graphics. Plus it's not white.

Here is #1: POVOLJNO 2003g.Lada Niva 1700 PLIN, 2003 god.
She's up in the mtns above Zagreb towards Hungary but the lady owner is in a hurry and she's driving to Zagreb tomorrow to meet us and show it. As it happens my acct/business mgr is going to Zagreb tomorrow to ferry his daughter back to school so I'm going to chip some fuel and ride along.

And here is #2: Lada Niva 1700 2003/2004 sa plinom 2650 Eura-ZAMJENA, 2003 god.
This one is also in Zagreb. Also not white. It is very sunny here and Nivas have 'manual airconditioning'. And the window cranks are prone to break off in your hand. Did I mention this is a Russian car?
Ergo, white cars are best here. No problem for the winter. The heater is spec'd for the sub-arctic steppes. All the cars in the Russian Antarctic base are stock Nivas.

#3 formerly #1 is out between Zagreb and Belgrade Serbia and he's holding it through today for us to see.
 
And I found STICkERS!!!
Niva Stickers
Mini printer was already on the want list.

Need to find: office supply store in Split.

PS: The one that ends with 'seriously' should have a couple of ??s
And for sure an inverted ? at the beginning. Lotsa Lada owners are 'spanic.
Any part that works will do. Or make one. JP something.
 
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So asking around about DIY oil change. It seems to be semi-illegal. The problem is the waste disposal. I've read a number of things on exped blogs about refining diesel fuel out of used motor oil, brake fluid tranny juice etc.
So I checked on diesel swap-ins and saw this on a blogsite:
Q. Which diesel Engine can I use in a Lada Niva .............. ??
A. It seems there are several different types of Diesel engine that can be fitted to a Niva with minimum fuss. Most popular in South America seems to be the VW 1600 from the MkII Golf. Toyota is also popular and Izuzu, even the old Peugeot 1905 indirect injection.
So if gas gets too high, pop in the oil burner. Or maybe anyway. I don't know about bio-diesel-do they like olive oil?
Any input on small, common, good, cheap diesel engines please chime in.

At least I could maybe run a small diesel genny.
 
How is the supply of used vegetable oil out there? That is always a free option for fuel, go to the restaurant and ask for it. If they don't want to give it to you for free then just let them pay someone to haul it off...they tend to give it away when they don't have to pay to have it hauled off.
 
So asking around about DIY oil change. It seems to be semi-illegal. The problem is the waste disposal. I've read a number of things on exped blogs about refining diesel fuel out of used motor oil, brake fluid tranny juice etc.
So I checked on diesel swap-ins and saw this on a blogsite:
Q. Which diesel Engine can I use in a Lada Niva .............. ??
A. It seems there are several different types of Diesel engine that can be fitted to a Niva with minimum fuss. Most popular in South America seems to be the VW 1600 from the MkII Golf. Toyota is also popular and Izuzu, even the old Peugeot 1905 indirect injection.
So if gas gets too high, pop in the oil burner. Or maybe anyway. I don't know about bio-diesel-do they like olive oil?
Any input on small, common, good, cheap diesel engines please chime in.

At least I could maybe run a small diesel genny.

Would bring up a new name no longer will they be know as French Fry Burners Pizza buners forever!!!LMAO:)
 
Never mind. I drove the thing for 7-8hrs today +/- 300 miles. I don't think I'm going to need another engine any time soon which means probably ever because it will just get better from here on out.

OK my photographer said these would invert but that didn't. Hard to get good help around here.

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I didn't bother with the pic that showed the LNG tank. This thing has an autogas conversion in it. I filled up the gas and the gasoline today and ran most of the way home on the gas, just using the gasoline for cold cranking and to keep it from back firing in crowded downtown. The gas, which they call PLIN (gasoline is benzin or petrol) runs 6/11ths the cost of petrol but the mpg's gotta be down because it's not as powerful. Should still be 20-30% cheaper to run on the autogas which I'm thinking is a propane rich LNG but I haven't researched it. Backfires like a 9mm when you back off on it engine braking though. Just once though, like a warning shot.
The bi-fuel is probably going to make more sense than bio-fuel anyway. They don't fry much here. Recycling DIY motor oil, tranny juice, brake fluid etc would be about the only free stuff and that is limited because it's not supposed to happen.
Most of the littler fishing boats around here, the old school ones anyway, use a little diesel johnny-popper engine. If I could find one of those for a stationary engine I could probably burn it there. Or in an outdoor oil heater. Or indoor for that matter if I had a flue.
Charcoal fuel? Spare expedtion backup?
 
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BillWright said:
Never mind. I drove the thing for 7-8hrs today +/- 300 miles. I don't think I'm going to need another engine any time soon which means probably ever because it will just get better from here on out.

OK my photographer said these would invert but that didn't. Hard to get good help around here.

That's badass Bill...good to see its already accessorized with the pink pig....you could call her little piggy....how soon before we see little piggy jumping dunes?
 
No dunes in Croatia.
This is supposed to stay totally sleeper, as invisible as possible. Being a laughing stock brand to most of the people should excuse any stupid f-ups. And the cops see you as a farmer going to the orchard.
I did a little bajaing on the yet to be paved bypass after it got dark and empty. This thing is a hoot.
 

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