red ebay 60 with poser snorkle

[nuclearlemon]

coil cooler is that better

good idea. coils and ignitors get kinda toasty...wouldn't want to burn em up.

 

[fytattoo]

i forget the brand of snorkel it is...but it was designed for the austrailan trucks in mind...i do believe that aircleaner is reversed...when you buy them for a u.s. version you have to adapt it to fit...more then likely they didnt realize it when they bought it and never took the time to make it work...there was just a write up in a magezine somewhere

 

[NocalFJ60]

Those 33x 9.5? Looks like it. I think 10.5 are better. They look too skinny. . It looks clean

 

[Poser]

what springs are on this thing?

BDS probably....not enough spring clamps for OME/Dakar....

 

[Mark W]

Regardles of why it's not hooked up, it's not. Therefore "posuer" is justified.

And so far as I'm concerned, crossing rivers IS the only reason for a snorkel. Name (and explain/justify/back up) and other real use for them.


Mark...

 

[Spook50]

Regardles of why it's not hooked up, it's not. Therefore "posuer" is justified.

And so far as I'm concerned, crossing rivers IS the only reason for a snorkel. Name (and explain/justify/back up) and other real use for them.


Mark...

If you live in a real dry/dusty area (Eastern WA during the wheat harvest for example, ugh), it'll help save the asspain of cleaning your air filter on a bi-weekly basis as the air intake is now moved higher, sucking in less dust that gets kicked up by vehicles on the roads (especially effective on dirt roads in the summer too).

 

[Mark W]

Okay, I'll take this...


I see lots of dust. A windy day in Knik valley can look like a sand storm scene from some sort of desert movie.

Does your dust really stay below 4-5 feet off the ground? Ours doesn't. When you spend a day outside in a dusty enviroment is your waist significantly dustier at the end of the day than your shoulders?
Is your windshield or roof of your rig dust free, or even significantly less dusty/dirty than your hood after a day on the field?

The situations where the dust at the level of your snorkel intake is significantly less than the dust at your grill/hood are pretty limited.

It's just marketing on the part of the snorkel manufacturers trying to give folks who don't really need snorkels an excuse to buy them without feeling selfconcious about wanting it 'cause it looks cool. Or trying to mislead them into believing that they really do need a snorkel.


Mark...

 

[treerootCO]

holy freakin' short brake line batman! It's pulling away from the axle just sitting in the driveway.

 

[Spook50]

Okay, I'll take this...


I see lots of dust. A windy day in Knik valley can look like a sand storm scene from some sort of desert movie.

Does your dust really stay below 4-5 feet off the ground? Ours doesn't. When you spend a day outside in a dusty enviroment is your waist significantly dustier at the end of the day than your shoulders?
Is your windshield or roof of your rig dust free, or even significantly less dusty/dirty than your hood after a day on the field?

The situations where the dust at the level of your snorkel intake is significantly less than the dust at your grill/hood are pretty limited.

It's just marketing on the part of the snorkel manufacturers trying to give folks who don't really need snorkels an excuse to buy them without feeling selfconcious about wanting it 'cause it looks cool. Or trying to mislead them into believing that they really do need a snorkel.


Mark...

When the dust is floating around in the air, there's nothing a snorkel is gonna do for you, but if you're driving behind someone on a dusty road where there's a cloud of dust being kicked up by the dude's rig, I would definately say a snorkel is gonna help keep dust ingestion (ouch big word. I'm getting tired) down. I try to clean my air filter on a regular basis during the summers here and it is CAKED up with dust and dirt. I would definately expect that having a snorkel would slow down the dust buildup. Enough to justify spending just under $300 for one? Not for me, I'm only an E-4. I wouldn't say a snorkel is NEEDED unless you're in deep water, but I would still say there are other plusses to having one.

 

[nuclearlemon]

i can guarantee the dust kickup. wesintl and i both were on the first annual outlaws run for rising sun and at the end of the trip, his snorkle equipped air cleaner element was just dirty, mine was almost clogged.

 

[Mike S]

Not hooked up?

The snorkles on the market for the 60 are all (AFAIK) are for the right side of the vehicle. The FJ60 air cleaner intake points to the left side. Moving this is a PITA, and substituting the FJ62 stuff is equally complicated, since it fits the throttle body intake, not the carb that FJ60 is equipped with.

So, IMO, the snorkel has value in getting clean fresh air into the engine compartment, even if it is not hooked up to the air cleaner intake. I would agree that there are probably better cold air intake systems that could be devised for the 60 with some moderate to serious fabrication involved.

M

 

[Mark W]

Not to deny your ancedote Ige, but one datapoint is not a trend.

Also, any and all other variables have top be considered. For example, how long did each rig spend following others who were kicking dust up as opposed to leading with no dust in the air until after that rig had passed.... How close behind other vehicles do the different drivers tend to follow when in dusty conditions, what brand were the filters and how old were they both... were the engines identical (pulling the same amount of air and neither with significant blowby vapor flowing out of the valve cover vent...), did both engines spend the same amountof time running (did one travel more or spend more time idling).

And I'm sure there are other variables I am not even thinking of right now.

And again, it would be no big deal to find a patricular situation where the terrain, type of dust, vehicle speeds and everything else were such that the dust would be heavy at 3 feet off the ground, but not at 5-6 feet. But this is not going to be the common situation. Normally the tyoes of dust light enough to get drawn into the intake tracting is gonna be pretty much the saem with such minimal height differences. The heavier stuff (dirt?)will stay lower, but that is noit gonna be making it through to the aircleaner anyway.


Mark...

 

[Mark W]

Not hooked up?

The snorkles on the market for the 60 are all (AFAIK) are for the right side of the vehicle. The FJ60 air cleaner intake points to the left side. Moving this is a PITA, and substituting the FJ62 stuff is equally complicated, since it fits the throttle body intake, not the carb that FJ60 is equipped with.

So, IMO, the snorkel has value in getting clean fresh air into the engine compartment, even if it is not hooked up to the air cleaner intake. I would agree that there are probably better cold air intake systems that could be devised for the 60 with some moderate to serious fabrication involved.

M

I would be pretty surprised if any significant amount of air flowed down a snorkel into the engine compartment without the vacuum of the intake pulling it. Generally the air under the hood is pushing to get out due to the high pressure pushing in through the radiator and the flow of the engine fan as well. The snorkel is not going to provide for an easy enohg egress route that any signifiacnt amount of air would get forced out of it however.
Pretty much a wash.


Mark...

 

[beaufort-fj60]

i would think, if anything hot air would travel up and out if the scoop was turned the way.

 

[fytattoo]

i was told by my friends, brothers, mothers best friends dog trainer that blue 60's dont need snorkels cuz there better, and red ones dont need to hook them up cuz the flux capacitor built into the electrical system acts as a buffer between the snorkle output and the carberator

 

[Mike S]

i was told by my friends, brothers, mothers best friends dog trainer that blue 60's dont need snorkels cuz there better, and red ones dont need to hook them up cuz the flux capacitor built into the electrical system acts as a buffer between the snorkle output and the carberator

OK... have you taken your meds today?

 

[euclid]

Okay, I'll take this...


I see lots of dust. A windy day in Knik valley can look like a sand storm scene from some sort of desert movie.

Does your dust really stay below 4-5 feet off the ground? Ours doesn't. When you spend a day outside in a dusty enviroment is your waist significantly dustier at the end of the day than your shoulders?
Is your windshield or roof of your rig dust free, or even significantly less dusty/dirty than your hood after a day on the field?

The situations where the dust at the level of your snorkel intake is significantly less than the dust at your grill/hood are pretty limited.

It's just marketing on the part of the snorkel manufacturers trying to give folks who don't really need snorkels an excuse to buy them without feeling selfconcious about wanting it 'cause it looks cool. Or trying to mislead them into believing that they really do need a snorkel.


Mark...

I agree with Mark about the dust. Snorkels are for water.

But:

I also think it's ok to do mods only because you think it looks cool, just don't act like you "needed" it. If you want it, get it but don't act like you "needed" it. If you act like you needed it, you are probably a poser.

There's a significant trend that says function always has to lead form. The trucks lend them selves to function is the form, but there is a balance.

 

[cruiser88]

snorkles are trully for water on dust i did a little less this mast summer than what i would normally see but nothing to brag about.but i would sware that it does get more air than normal,at the very least.but i would never get a snorkel for anything else other than water.not worth the money. and it has been put to good use

 

[fytattoo]

my point is...snorkels help in multiple situations...including dust and water...arguing over the effectiveness in certain situations is mute when it helps in both...we put off-road equipment on our rigs to keep failures you to a minimal...saying it doesnt help while riding with a pack of trucks on a dusty road is naive...

 

[Mark W]

Naive?


Mark...