Really rough idleing

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I have a 2B with 150,000 Km in my 81 BJ44V. This things idles like a SOB. I adjusted the idle on it just a hair higher and it smoothed out a tad. I changed the fuel filter and oil and it runs a tad more smoother. Its still not where I want it to be. It blows very little smoke when you hammer it and hardley any when you start it up. After I changed the oil there was very little if any blow back out of the oil filler cap. Its hard finding a book on 2B's so I don't really know where to start. Is fuel injectors the next bet??? It always starts as soon as I tap the key? PLEASE HELP BEFORE I START SHOTGUNING PARTS!
 
OK.....first off. These are four cylinder diesels. They idle rough. Thats why you have a hand throttle. Bring it up to 1000rpm to warm up and you can also bring it up off idle when warm till it is smooth.

They just idle rough. But if your driving is fine and have no noticeable smoke then I would say things are OK.

There could be something wrong...but I bet your feeling normal 4cyl diesel rough idle. Try to find some one with another 2b or 3b in your area to compare.

Servicing the fuel injectors is a good idea to do anyhow, especially if you do not know when they were last done. Another good idea is replacing the diaphram on the injector pump. That effects idle too.

If you had injector pump issues you would see them at higher rpm too, like excessive smoking. with no power...

So no worries.....it ain't a gasser!
 
Sweet, thanks for the info. I already use the hand throttle for warm up purposes. I don't have a tack on my rig...thought that was wierd...but I pull it out about 3 clicks. My buddy has a 2b and I compared it to his. His runs rough when it is cold but it eventually smooths out. My 2b on the other hands seems to get rougher. Where is the diaphram located and/or should I have my injectors cleaned or replaced? Thanks again!
 
Both the diaphram and the injectors would not hurt to service.

The diaphram is a 30 dollar part and whole bunch of time to replace. It is located at the back of the injection pump. I would do a search on diaphram on here to find more info.

Fuel injectors are a good thing to get serviced about every 100k or so. IMOP only... Others may have a certain idea themselves.

Expect to pay about 300 dollars to get the injectors serviced. But you may find a cheaper price since you are in a diesel world there. They replace the tips or clean them, also reset the crack pressure in the nozzle.

Ya the hand throttle can be used to smooth it out a little. You just don;t want it too high.

Otheriwse you are using too much rpm when going on and off the clutch....

A little tach may be a nice addition when you feel the need. Great for setting up idle.
 
I would start small and check for air in your high pressure fuel lines to injectors. 98% of the time there is rough idling with my diesels it is air in high pressure lines. Hard for it to get there randomly, but it can. Easy for it to get there if changing filters etc, or there are any fuel/air leaks in your system.

Way to bleed is start truck, bring up to idle where it will stay idling... Crack metal line to injectors one at a time with engine running. Probably want to put towel over injector while you are doing this otherwise diesel goes everywhere. Let fuel pour out a little then tighten. Do not overtighten. Use air to blow off diesel that has accumulated, if still leaking then loosen and retighten, do not over tighten... Do this on all 4 cyls, one at a time, then rev a few times to get any residual air through and outof system. If idle doesn't stabilize then check elsewhere. If you attempt bleed and F something up so it won't run or start, don't worry, turn off truck if not already off, loosen all four lines where it meets injectors, put towel over, and crnak for about 20-30 seconds. Then tighten, clean up, then start. Then rev. Then you should be fine, if not, repeat individual bleeding as described before. If none of this helps anything then start checking elsewhere. It is probably not something majorly mechanical is my guess...

Again, it is very possible to get air in system with changing of filters etc... Or if you run out of fuel somehow. Usually you can 'drive out' of it by revving hard and that will consume air, if its only minimal, but if not then you may have to bleed. If it was running well and you were on any weird angle or changed a filter, or simply ran out of fuel, you usually have to do this... Andre
 
To me rough idling could be a few things, if it is rough like alot of engine vibration in the cab your engine mounts may need replacing, if she smokes alot injectors, if she sometimes won't start glow plugs. Also as siad before could be a little air bubble, but I notcied in my truck even the smallest bubble it usally won't start, but if it does, its rough
 
good question......never heard of it. hmmmmm? I also heard about something called a water seperator canister?? Something about draining one located on the inner chassis......I am going to try everyones suggestions as soon as I get back from my trip.:cheers:
 
Oh yes it will have a water seperator.
 
it will either be located on the firwall or frame rail, could need draning, have you changed you fuel filter
 
yea I just changed the fuel filter....didn't really help. Does the fuel canister look like a square box with rounded sides? Is it just inside of the step panel attached to the chassis?
 
nope, that is your vacumm canister.
the fuel seperator is about the size of a can of pepsi
 

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