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pretty sure toyota never offered a troopy like that, It is common for people to add a 45 pick up top and build a lower wall to enclose the cab.Very cool though!
Seller claims it all stock. Did the HJ47 have disc brakes in81 on the troopies imported to Australia. I know Toyota did some crazy stuuf on vehicles but not sure this is one of them. The rear sill would be the same as a FJ40 series so wouldn't think they would have used a sill from a soft top model with a tailgate instead of one from a model with ambulance doors? My phone won't load any of the pictures and the computer I'm is missing about seventeen of the last ones. So I'm not seeing any detailed pictures of the piece behind the seats. If I had a special model from Toyota I would have posted many detailed pictures of the area that made it so. If someone has a RHD 81 HJ47 troopy they could compare the model # and trim # from the VIN. If it was a special model I would think it would be reflected there. I have a rare full time 4WD FJ40 and the trans is listed as M42 on the VIN to show it was different.
Even if it was done later it looks well done. But I would have to see it in person before spending that kind of money. By the email to ask questions it appears to be a dealership not a private owner. How much history they know is questionable.
Even if it was done later it looks well done. But I would have to see it in person before spending that kind of money. By the email to ask questions it appears to be a dealership not a private owner. How much history they know is questionable.
If that is not TOYOTA made it is the best I would expect to see done by any shop. The lower rear wall is very similar to my 45 wall in regards to structure and ribs. Looking from the rear you can see what looks like the fuel evap/vent thingy for a gas model incorporated into the right end of the wall.
Lots of pictures, mostly of the same view though. I too would love to see behind the seats and in the corners of the bed.
If it is factory, which I think it is, then the seller does not know the full extent of what he has there. He makes no mention of the special nature of the cab configuration but instead only the special nature and condition of the truck in general.
I would buy this in an instant. Wish I could.
I stole some pictures for posterity...
Lots of pictures, mostly of the same view though. I too would love to see behind the seats and in the corners of the bed.
If it is factory, which I think it is, then the seller does not know the full extent of what he has there. He makes no mention of the special nature of the cab configuration but instead only the special nature and condition of the truck in general.
I would buy this in an instant. Wish I could.
I stole some pictures for posterity...
Thanks for saving the pictures. But I still believe it could be modified. Not here but in Australia. A question I have is the emission tank location corectect for later model 40 series pickups? If so here in the state it would be a real chore to get a late model cab to cut up for pieces. In Oz I'll bet you could find a cab and cut the back out to piece in. Finding a part off a FJ40 is pretty easy here. In Oz the FJ40 was the rarer model. Another thing I noticed is no thread holes for the tailgate chain anchor bolt. Looks like the hole for the ambulance license plate light wiring.
Either way it looks very well done, just not convinced it's factory.
Just notice all the bolts to hold the regular hard top on. After 77 the US FJ40's windshield had holes but no fixed nuts for the soft top channel. No soft top models being imported Toyota didn't bother to weld in the nuts. Doesn't make sense this would have had the fixed nuts if this was a model being made at the factory.
Either way it looks very well done, just not convinced it's factory.
Just notice all the bolts to hold the regular hard top on. After 77 the US FJ40's windshield had holes but no fixed nuts for the soft top channel. No soft top models being imported Toyota didn't bother to weld in the nuts. Doesn't make sense this would have had the fixed nuts if this was a model being made at the factory.
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It also doesnt make sense for toyota to produce such a rig,when most aussies prefer tray backs and it is rare to see lwb 45 pickups with factory beds,a troopy pickup just doesnt sound like toyota.It is simply a troopy with the back half of a 45 nicely grafted in.Also as mentioned if I owned such a rare (outback model)? I would certainly describe it in detail,none the less I would love this rig in my driveway
FWIW, it's the exact same model # and trim # as my Aussie soft top troopy: HJ47RV-KCQ and LM11
Thomas ,how bout a bigger picture of this soft top
That pretty much says it all,there was no special outback short cab model...
That pretty much says it all,there was no special outback short cab model...
My impression FWIW:
Several similar to this are out there. Not factory made, from post-1979 pickup cabs grafted onto Troopy bodies. The later pickup trucks had the vapor separator in the same spot, in the narrow area between the cab back and the bed front wall--hard to access on the original pickup truck.
A close-up photo of the joint between the bed floor and the cab rear wall would be helpful. The second and third of Kevin's photos show the curved side of the pickup cab meeting the Troopy inside wall in a curved joint--factory would've probably made a 90 degree joint to fit the seam. Also the front bed floor has been patched with a narrow piece, with the embossing cut flat at the seam that meets the cab back wall--although nicely executed, factory would likely have made a full floor for it, although the FJ43 floors have a larger extension on their rear floors, and the pickup bed floors are straight-cut at the front bed wall. Also...the upper lip of the bed walls is formed to accept the Troopy upper panels, not a utility edge-rail as seen on the pickups. Low production numbers would be the only reason for using existing pieces to construct a complete vehicle. Only the Norforce Troopies had variations from the standard Troopy body, and I am not certain that those mods were done in the toyota factory, but possibly by a sub-contractor either in Japan or another location.
Despite this, the body work seems to be nicely fit-- by someone with access to a pickup cab and a Troopy body.
Land Rover has done a similar conversion of its Defender long wheelbase 110 model into both a 110 4-door crew cab pickup as well as a longer wheelbase 130 crew cab pickup. These are/were done in their Special Vehicles division, not on the production assembly line. Land Rover has a specific rear bulkhead they manufacture to accomplish this, as well as making a true separated cab/bed pickup truck.
Likely the fabricator of this hybrid Land Cruiser had seen the Land Rover model(s) for inspiration, probably in Australia where both Land Cruiser and Land Rover existed simultaneously in fairly large numbers.
None of the official Toyota parts manuals, production lists, sales brochures shows this model exactly as executed here. I vote for a nicely done, well-thought out, one-off. Not disparaging the builder, just questioning the lineage.
Several similar to this are out there. Not factory made, from post-1979 pickup cabs grafted onto Troopy bodies. The later pickup trucks had the vapor separator in the same spot, in the narrow area between the cab back and the bed front wall--hard to access on the original pickup truck.
A close-up photo of the joint between the bed floor and the cab rear wall would be helpful. The second and third of Kevin's photos show the curved side of the pickup cab meeting the Troopy inside wall in a curved joint--factory would've probably made a 90 degree joint to fit the seam. Also the front bed floor has been patched with a narrow piece, with the embossing cut flat at the seam that meets the cab back wall--although nicely executed, factory would likely have made a full floor for it, although the FJ43 floors have a larger extension on their rear floors, and the pickup bed floors are straight-cut at the front bed wall. Also...the upper lip of the bed walls is formed to accept the Troopy upper panels, not a utility edge-rail as seen on the pickups. Low production numbers would be the only reason for using existing pieces to construct a complete vehicle. Only the Norforce Troopies had variations from the standard Troopy body, and I am not certain that those mods were done in the toyota factory, but possibly by a sub-contractor either in Japan or another location.
Despite this, the body work seems to be nicely fit-- by someone with access to a pickup cab and a Troopy body.
Land Rover has done a similar conversion of its Defender long wheelbase 110 model into both a 110 4-door crew cab pickup as well as a longer wheelbase 130 crew cab pickup. These are/were done in their Special Vehicles division, not on the production assembly line. Land Rover has a specific rear bulkhead they manufacture to accomplish this, as well as making a true separated cab/bed pickup truck.
Likely the fabricator of this hybrid Land Cruiser had seen the Land Rover model(s) for inspiration, probably in Australia where both Land Cruiser and Land Rover existed simultaneously in fairly large numbers.
None of the official Toyota parts manuals, production lists, sales brochures shows this model exactly as executed here. I vote for a nicely done, well-thought out, one-off. Not disparaging the builder, just questioning the lineage.
I could'nt have said it better,nicely done Bear
Not the expert but I recall another truck like this (if not the same one) for sale a few years ago where they stated that was what was done to make it, 47 body and different cab, from Australia. It is very nice but too pricey for me.
Insert dash was a 83 change in the US. If that was true in Australia also my guess it was imported in 2006 and claimed to be a a 81 model which would have made it twenty-five years. Or maybe they did get the dash easier. But I remember seeing cruisers on Ebay that fit into insert dash in a pre 83 cruiser and figured it was just a way of getting around the twenty-five rule. Anyone know if other markets got the insert dash sooner?
11mth 1980 model HJ47 i'm doing at the moment doesn't have the dash insert. And had drum brakes. Something is definitely up with it. very well modified troopie i'm thinking. It's not that hard to do if you have access to the parts
My DD for the last 9yrs 1982 troopie converted
I do like how they have done the rear wall with factory pressings though. i just used sheet metal, but i capped the quarters to give a more factory finish to them
My DD for the last 9yrs 1982 troopie converted
I do like how they have done the rear wall with factory pressings though. i just used sheet metal, but i capped the quarters to give a more factory finish to them
Uted, I love the looks of your rig.
As far as the Red one in the post. It is a great looking rig. On the pickups, I thought the top of the bed and the cab on pickups were actually a different height. I was thinking there was about a 1" difference.
There was a person near San Diego selling a 1/2 cab top. I don't know whay you could not put the bulkhead and hardtop to turn your FJ or troopy into a full body pickup truck. https://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-parts/197747-rare-half-cab-trade.html
As far as the Red one in the post. It is a great looking rig. On the pickups, I thought the top of the bed and the cab on pickups were actually a different height. I was thinking there was about a 1" difference.
There was a person near San Diego selling a 1/2 cab top. I don't know whay you could not put the bulkhead and hardtop to turn your FJ or troopy into a full body pickup truck. https://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-parts/197747-rare-half-cab-trade.html
Ok, I REALLY need to win the lottery! Cool looking rig 