Poll on total brake failure in 100 series (8 Viewers)

[e9999]

but on the more constructive side, could you guys who have had problems put in enough technical details here that we can start to work on identifying possible preventive workarounds, as in low-cost preemptive replacements of dubious parts etc?

 

[sosodefcane]

Maybe I'm just technologically challenged, but I don't see a button on the mobile site. Where is it?

 

[tdkhelene]

Please begin posting if you know if regular flushing / maintenance of the fluid has been done... It may begin showing a pattern.

 

[mint400]

looks like my abs motor failed around 150K, fairly sudden failure and truck was awkward to stop; if I were camping off road or driving at high speed It could have been really bad. I had not really flushed the system, only a resevoir. I need advice on what to replace when the abs motor fails.

 

[Supra88]

No 180,000 miles, my2000

 

[70 FJ40]

It sure would be nice to know what to do as preventative maintenance. Flush entire system maybe? Anything else? Or what things to inspect closly say at every 5k oil change or so.

 

[badlander]

I voted "No" earlier in post #20 and have been doing a complete flush once per year since I bought the vehicle in Jan. 2010.
168K Miles now. No issues so far - knock on wood.

 

[gil12]

To assess the "health" of the system, would it be useful to time how long the motor is compressing the system on morning start-up? (I'm thinking it might be similar to comparing how long it takes my old bones to get out of bed now versus when I was 20!)

I suppose some standardization would be helpful - say if it sat for 12 hours since last being pressurized. Then comparing newly replaced mc assemblies to well used ones (like mine at 145,000 miles.)


Just a thought,
Gil

 

[Ming89FJ62]

2007 with 80k (wife's dd). Nada

 

[Nottajeep]

99 voted no with 200k. The pump used to run for a min or so on cold start-up. Flushed lines at dealer and I don't hear the pump nearly as much. Bought truck at 120k and first time to flush.

Dealer used a special dry flush chemical (posted in another thread here).

 

[joseywales]

No in my '99 w 182,xxx miles. As with others, I've only had this particular LC for 9 months. No indication of failure in the records I have.

 

[Stylo07]

I have a different angle on this topic and wanted to share. I'm an 80 owner (yes, my head gasket has been replaced =), and decided to pick up a 100 as a daily driver. I spent approximately 2 months on an exhaustive search for a '06/'07 LX or LC, including running a Carfax and Autocheck, and for those I was really interested in, adding VINs to my Toyota and Lexus owner accounts so as to see some dealership service history.

This is all highly anecdotal, but of the 30 or so I researched, 3 saw replacement of major brake components (MC and/or ABS pump) due to total brake failure. It's worth noting that those three vehicles either had highly-detailed maintenance history or the seller told me about it. To me, this means it's not unfathomable that more than 3 out of my entire search population had components replaced due to failure.

This research discovery nearly turned me away from the 100 series. However, I picked up a 2006 a couple of weeks ago. I didn't vote for mine because I just bought it and am not confident declaring whether or not it's seen total brake failure. My guess is no.

Thanks for starting this critical thread. I look forward to more data and any possible outcome.

 

[Stylo07]

If you have experienced this or any unsafe brake failure please submit a complaint to NHTSA https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

They do read them and if they see a pattern or a trend they will definitely inquire Toyota.

I STRONGLY encourage all of you with 100s that experienced total brake failure to report it. The NHTSA is perhaps more alert than ever.

 

[gil12]

I agree that this is a very important topic. Stopping is more important than going!

RE: maintenance, I've been thinking about it, and current thought is that I should either replace MC piston, accumulator, and have motor rebuilt ($60+300+300= $700). Or install a new MC unit ($2100).

My LC is at 145,000

Gil

 

[e9999]

it's actually pretty amazing -and thankfully so- that with 19 reports of serious brake failure so far I don't remember any mention of an accident resulting from said failures. You guys must be some good drivers...!

 

[schlite60]

Just recently I had the alarm and lights light up for about 2 minutes; then back to normal also braking was good . It also makes noise when starting up then goes away after a short period of time. I suspect the motor might be going out. The mileage is 220,000. Just made a round-trip into Vegas!

 

[cruz]

2000, 145k, no

 

[mrbigboy]

Voted no with 136k on my 2000.
Pretty disturbed by this too. My cruiser is used by my wife as the kid hauler most of the time.
I'm having bearings repacked, new pads, fluid flush, and maybe rotors done next week. Will have the MC looked at as well.

Would be great to get more info from others who had failure, and also get more people voting on the poll!

 

[mint400]

You all might find this interesting:

Brake booster pump with accumulator for Toyota Land Cruiser 1998-2007
These are a wear item that typically will wear out anytime you have had heavy braking demands during the life of the vehicle. Normal braking time and the pump will last 200k miles +. Heavy braking such as city driving it could be gone within 100k miles.

Approx replacement cost $1200usd



ref:
http://shop.cruiserparts.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=24685
http://shop.cruiserparts.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=24685

 

[OregonLC]

Would be interesting to see the failures broken down by the specific cause as a percentage; brake lines, MC pump, MC piston, etc.

If a high percentage were MC piston and it could be correlated back to a mileage, that could then become a potential PM item.

Also wondering how much is correlated to ABS/VSC/ATRAC? At least one of the reports is a pre-2k. Others? Is continuous ATRAC use a correlating factor?