But they are not "TOYOTA" and when you pay OEM prices you want OEM, not TRAD.
The one I just ordered and installed was a TRAD. It looked and fit great but I was disappointed that it wasn't TOYOTA.
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But they are not "TOYOTA" and when you pay OEM prices you want OEM, not TRAD.
The one I just ordered and installed was a TRAD. It looked and fit great but I was disappointed that it wasn't TOYOTA.
True, but gopart and radiator.com are not selling for OEM price. OEM price on these "rebuilt" radiators is just ridiculous IMHO.
I'm not sure if you are understanding.
The internal Toyota company that made radiators for Toyota used to be called "Toyota Radiator."
They changed the name of the company and shortened it to "TRad."
It's the same company.
I can come and spray paint "TOYOTA" on it if you'd like....
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It is OEM, Toyota doesn't make every part, like all automotive manufactures they have suppliers. If you open the hood on a Tacoma, Tundra, etc, will see that most had radiators made by Harrison, a GM company. On the earlier Tacoma, Tundra, etc, the frames, control arms, leaf springs, etc, were made by Dana, a GM company. Lots of parts have multiple OEM suppliers, for example; wheel bearings, both Timken and Toyo were installed from the factory, so both are OEM parts.
Just ordered my Koyo from go-part.com. 5% off with the code "facebookdeal". $264 shipped.
I guess I know what I'm doing next weekend.
I guess I know what I'm doing next weekend.
Exact same thing happened in my garage about 3 months ago. Went ahead with the install and everything is golden so far.....
Why don't you just call them and ask if that # is koyo's # or theirs. 
gonna buy one anyway myself. What is the OEM material Aluminum or something else inside the OEM radiator?
gonna buy one anyway myself. What is the OEM material Aluminum or something else inside the OEM radiator?It is OEM, Toyota doesn't make every part, like all automotive manufactures they have suppliers. If you open the hood on a Tacoma, Tundra, etc, will see that most had radiators made by Harrison, a GM company. On the earlier Tacoma, Tundra, etc, the frames, control arms, leaf springs, etc, were made by Dana, a GM company. Lots of parts have multiple OEM suppliers, for example; wheel bearings, both Timken and Toyo were installed from the factory, so both are OEM parts.
Dana isn't a GM company.
Your point still stands.
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Stevesnj said:Why don't you just call them and ask if that # is koyo's # or theirs.
Just got a reply back from go-part and they said that C1917 is an actual KOYO part number and PR1917K is their stocking number. I have installed it yesterday and it's a peace of mind drop in replacement. All is good and I am very happy with the radiator.
Other than the TRAD sticker on the top of mine, I cannot see any physical differences in all the pictures so far in this thread. Will be interesting to see if the service life is the same between the two.
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:whoops: yep, better wording would have been historically domestic OEM suppliers.
The irony of this whole thread is that people think OEM parts are made by the OEM. Laughable...
Statements like this indicate that you do not understand how complex the automobile manufacturing processes and system actually are in the real world...
Not the MUD world.
I would argue that I understand the manufactuing process more than you clearly don't give me credit for. Very few automotive components are made by the companies that put their logos on the vehicles. Granted, all of these companies use specific suppliers to provide the components, which are then labeled as "OEM" parts because they are built to the standards set forth by the automotive manufacturer. But to think that these companies literally manuracture every single component down to the nuts and bolts themselves is naive.
I would be the first to agree that the components that are made to the OEM standards and certified by the OEM can be and usually are of a higher quality than the components made by other "Aftermarket" manufacturers. But to believe that every one of those components is actually formed, stamped, welded, cast, machined, etc. by an OEM factory is just silly.
I would be the first to agree that the components that are made to the OEM standards and certified by the OEM can be and usually are of a higher quality than the components made by other "Aftermarket" manufacturers. But to believe that every one of those components is actually formed, stamped, welded, cast, machined, etc. by an OEM factory is just silly.
Large portions of the parts on vehicles are made by the auto company, whether through themselves or through a subsidiary/branch (ie DENSO in toyotas).
"OEM" does not imply, and was never meant to imply that the part was made by the company that ultimately assembled the vehicle. All it means is that the part was selected/ordered by said manufacturer to be used in their final assembled vehicle.
OEM != Toyota, OEM == Company Toyota selected in the first place to manufacturer a certain component, whether that be Toyota itself or some subcontractor.
OEM != Toyota, OEM == Company Toyota selected in the first place to manufacturer a certain component, whether that be Toyota itself or some subcontractor.
Any updates?
Here is one update. I need to order a replacement radiator, found this thread, went to the go-parts website and clicked on Koyo C1917 radiator and got the message: "Product not found."
They do however still sell the cheaper replacement for $153.
Anyone know if this radiator is still being made?
EDIT: This was for a 1994 LC
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