On the motor search 22r/e

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Well Im looking at getting a motor for my 86 4Runner and if I can find an inexpensive low mileage motor before I have the cash for a rebuilt I'm going to do it. I'm having slight memory glitches about things I've read in the past as far as putting an efi head on to an originally carbed block but they are a little unclear lol. I found an 83 22r with 120k on it that is still in the truck. The guy did a compression test right in front of me and all the cylinders came in between 125 and 130 which sounds about right (right?). I seem to remember hearing somewhere down the line that some 22r's couldn't accept an EFI head or that they required some type of modification so I was wondering, would this work in my 4Runner? Is it the 20r that won't accept an EFI head? Flat top pistons vs. dome? I wish I could remember, the time is ticking on this engine as it will be sold fast I think.
 
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I am by no means an expert but I think the short answer is yes, it is possible to put a 22re head on a 22r short block....but it isn't trivial. If you had an 85 or older 22r then it would be relatively easy.

This thread might help explain:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508034

IMHO, I wouldn't do it. It's a used 22r engine and 130 psi compression isn't that great. The deck heights are different from a 22re (think timing chain, etc.) My new engine has 180+ on all 4 cylinders.

Order parts from Ted at Engnbldr and rebuild what you have yourself or have someone else do it. I think you'll be much better off in the long run.
 
Ok, that would be a waste of time and a lot of work. Rebuilding an engine is just so intimidating to me for some reason (mostly because I haven't done it). I would hate to spend the money on the parts, pay for the machining (I've been quoted $1000 ouch), then make some type of newb mistake and waste all that money. I just don't have a firm grasp on some things like bearing clearances, torque values etc. The whole thing just scares the crap out of me, plus I don't have any tools to install the rings etc. I guess I'll just keep waiting until I can afford to pay someone. It's killing me though because I'm driving my Jeep Cherokee right now and I have just always hated Jeeps, ever since I can remember, and long before I could drive lol.
 
Ok, that would be a waste of time and a lot of work. Rebuilding an engine is just so intimidating to me for some reason (mostly because I haven't done it). I would hate to spend the money on the parts, pay for the machining (I've been quoted $1000 ouch), then make some type of newb mistake and waste all that money.

While I can empathise with your concern, I just wouldn't want you to buy a 22r engine and not be able to use it.

Drive the heap, save your money and pay someone to rebuild your 22re. In the meantime start interviewing potential mechanics!

Good luck...you deserve it. :cheers:
 
Haha, I could use a little good luck, atleast once :lol: . I just decided I shouldn't do the rebuild myself, I think I could install a longblock if I found a good friend with a garage and air but the rebuild process looks too tedious for me after reading http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=2963 . It's all the small stuff that scares the crap out of me. You get machine work, but you need to know tolerances, cam degree, valve clearance etc. and it seems the smallest thing could really create a large expensive mess. I just got through ten pages of that thread and said screw it, I can drive the Heep until I have more cash. It's also motivation to get a job that actually gets me 40 hours a week (like mine was supposed to after 2 months :mad:). Hard to buy an engine when I'm only getting enough hours to survive and snowboard. I miss my 4 banger so.....:grinpimp: I'm not going to cheap out this time, but it's so hard when I see motors left and right that run for $200-$300 bucks.
 
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