OME lift HELP !!!! FZJ80

[In2cruisers]

I started on my OME lift this morning....Opened the box and the springs are tagged "A" and "B"...................OK sure !!!!!!!!! Unfortionatly there is no A & B stamped on the rear fenders of my Cruiser. Who knows the secret code? Would "drivers" and "passengers" be to confusing?

Thanks

 

[cruiserdan]

Put the taller springs on the LH (US DS) side of the vehicle.

 

[reffug]

Put the taller springs on the LH (US DS) side of the vehicle.

C'mon Dan what were you dying to say?

 

[cruiserdan]

C'mon Dan what were you dying to say?

You mean where they used to be labeled PS and DS except for the fact that they were refering to RHD vehicles so all the US ones leaned?

 

[reffug]

You mean where they used to be labeled PS and DS except for the fact that they were refering to RHD vehicles so all the US ones leaned?

Well that was part of it.......................

Oh Dan by the way was looking up famous quotes by George S. and man he has a bunch of good ones. Never thought about it but that old fart must make for some very interesting reading.

 

[NorCalDoug]

Why can't the OME people just leave well enough alone?
First they start off with DS and PS -- but that only applied to RHD countries, so their PS was our DS and vice versa.

Then the go to RH and LH (or some equivalent) which should have been fine, but I recall several posts asking if the right side should be switched -- apparently people confused from the DS/PS days....

Now they're labeling the springs A and B???

WTF?

Why not just provide a simple picture (like IKEA does with their instructions for assembling stuff) -- provide a picture of an 80; show 1 tall spring, and 1 short spring; draw arrows showing the taller spring on the left side and the shorter spring on the right side...
uh...I guess that would just be too simple.

 

[reffug]

uh...I guess that would just be too simple.

Indeed sir...........

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

or they could stop labeling them altogether and just put a note in the box that says "Install taller of two springs on driver's side of vehicle" That way regardless of where the driver's side is, it's still right

 

[landtank]

or they could stop labeling them altogether and just put a note in the box that says "Install taller of two springs on driver's side of vehicle" That way regardless of where the driver's side is, it's still right

The taller spring is oriented to the position requirering the taller spring do to a manufacturing difference in the vehicle. Has nothing to do with where your fat ass is planted.

 

[Koffer]

My Js came with the "RT, LT" on them and thats how they went on . Never looked to see if they longer but the truck sits level . so I did something right

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

The taller spring is oriented to the position requirering the taller spring do to a manufacturing difference in the vehicle. Has nothing to do with where your fat ass is planted.

I see, I misunderstood.

 

[medtro]

Why can't the OME people just leave well enough alone?
First they start off withWhy not just provide a simple picture (like IKEA does with their instructions for assembling stuff) -- provide a picture of an 80; show 1 tall spring, and 1 short spring; draw arrows showing the taller spring on the left side and the shorter spring on the right side...
uh...I guess that would just be too simple.

My OME springs have PS, DS labels. They also come with an instruction sheet explaining where the DS, PS springs should go if you have a LHD rig.

 

[landtank]

I see, I misunderstood.

No problem, your a Heep dude.


The reason for the distance difference is that unlike Dana axles which are basically a couple of tubes pressed into a diff housing, the LCs are trussed. You'll notice that the area at the housing is quite large and then tapers down to the wheel. Because of the fact that the diffs are not centered in the axle the amount that they taper differs between each end so the spring perches don't sit at the same disatnce from the center of the axle giving a difference in distance from the frame.


As you get into the LC more you'll keep coming accross situations such as this where there are differences between the two and for good reason. So for now you might want to try and keep that Heep knowledge base you've aquired in check and not make assumptions until you get more familiar with the new truck.

 

[Rich]

A couple of weeks ago I measured the distance from the lower spring perch to the top of the axle immediately adjacent to where the axle tube is welded to the knuckle. Both sides were the same distance and at that point and both axle tube ends are the same diameter. This is on a '97 Land Cruiser. It does appear on my cruiser that the difference in axle tube diamater is compensated by the mounting height of the spring perches themselves.

So I suspect that there must be another reason that the springs are different lengths.

 

[MoJ]

So for now you might want to try and keep that Heep knowledge base you've aquired in check and not make assumptions until you get more familiar with the new truck.

:whoops:

 

[landtank]

Well I just ran outside and checked the measurements on my axle and came up with almost 3/8 " difference between the DS and PS. I then sat down to type this response and figured I had to made a mistake because Rich tends to be right more often than I am. So I went back out to remeasure it again and figured out what I was doing wrong. On the DS side the center weld is clearly visable so I measured to that, however it's not so visable on the PS so I eyeballed it to the center. The difference was do to the rotation of the axle.


Maybe it's the gas tank being on that side. It is on that side isn't it.

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

So I'm not a complete idiot after all. Yeah, the gas tank is on that side.

 

[landtank]

So I'm not a complete idiot after all.

Nope, but that would make me a Jackass.

 

[Rich]

I liked the asymetrical axle explanation for the differing spring lengths as it always sounded so reasonable. I was a bit disappointed when it didn't measure out.