Any recommendation on what grease I should use?
OME BP-51 OWNERS...... ROLL CALL.........
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I actually had to replace the bushing as the there was metal scoring on the washers- I utilized the grease that came with the kit. I think it is some sort of silicon moly grease.
Mmmmm, those UCA were installed at the end of July, Guess I'll have to contact SPC
Not that I have a 200...but have Icons and SPC UCAs on my 100. I thought I had a squeaky upper problem but it was my Sliders touching the floorpan causing the squeaking. Worth checking.
Broke out the grease gun, greased the nipples, seems the noise is mostly gone, but the temp is high today, I'll check over time.
Sliders seem fine, thanks for the tip.
Sliders seem fine, thanks for the tip.
Actually noise is still there, should I bring it to Toyota or the shop that installed the BP-51's. Only happens on large suspension strokes and mostly front.
Or is there anything else to grease?
Or is there anything else to grease?
only other thing you could do to set your self up for success is back the bolt out ( a bit) that holds your uca to the truck frame and grease the bolt itself then tighten it back. That way you know you've addressed the uca in its entirety. if it still squeaks then look elsewhere.
Taco2Cruiser
Crazy American Off Road
Earlier in this thread I mentioned Icon always has deals around this time of the year.
Metal tech 4x4 20% off on 25-28 Nov on all icon suspension
code is ICON20
Metal tech 4x4 20% off on 25-28 Nov on all icon suspension
code is ICON20
Reading about all the annoying clunk issues has me leaning towards the ICONS even though OME BP-51s have such a loyal following. In fact one of the reasons I bought my 200 sooner than planned was the commercial for the BP51s. The icons are running $1000 more even after discount ($4400 vs $3400)
Markuson
SILVER Star
Aside from the mud guard's poor ability to stay on... Performance of the BP-51s has been amazing.
Is the clunking issue related to this? I saw one post mention squeaking. I see a number of posts complaining about the clunking but no resolution yet?
Taco2Cruiser
Crazy American Off Road
The BP-51s are a very good shock and I'll never deny that, along with an attractive price for a massive departure from traditional emulsion shocks. I used to build one off suspensions in a custom shop for years. From 3 link rock crawlers to 5 link air bagged '60s cadillacs and everything in between. With all that experience I felt the trade of convince for cost was worth it to me.
But... ride quality does not come from a shock alone, proper set up is the real final step.
I originally posted because I felt that everyone thought that BP-51s were the best because they, because umm they're the best.
In my small opinion no, they are not, and it completely comes down to setup and easy adjustment of compression and dampening, especially while changing load or driving surface regularly.
Icons are also easier to adjust preload. I think I'm a pretty accepting of others views and I hope I display that on this great forum (seriously a community like this sure doesn't exist with other Toyota platform or jeeps in terms of respect), but the "cruiser lean" or "KDSS lean" doesn't exist. It's only for shops or people who don't really know or don't really care to level everything out.
My BP-51s originally gave me a .25" lean down on the passenger side (US). Well talking to ARB I found out the rear A side spring goes on the passenger and the preload on my front driver side was 3mm spun down which all combined to give a lean.
Now on Icons, you can adjust preload on the truck just by jacking up the side to be adjusted and getting all load off the coil over. A spanner wrench is used and bam you're done. On BPs, you have to take the whole coil out, compress the spring and make your changes, then put it all back together, I'm sorry that is a bad design.
Now I can honestly say, that a 200 series wants the front coils to be exactly the same which is very uncommon but it works for us. So if you know to check prior to install you should be good, unless you are a heavy single driver or have built a drawer system in the back that doesn't distribute weight evenly, then further changes would need to be made.
Sorry for another long Taco post, but I felt this needed further explaining from my point of view.
As far as clunking goes, the BPs or icons are not the main cause of it, so don't let that sway you.
But... ride quality does not come from a shock alone, proper set up is the real final step.
I originally posted because I felt that everyone thought that BP-51s were the best because they, because umm they're the best.
In my small opinion no, they are not, and it completely comes down to setup and easy adjustment of compression and dampening, especially while changing load or driving surface regularly.
Icons are also easier to adjust preload. I think I'm a pretty accepting of others views and I hope I display that on this great forum (seriously a community like this sure doesn't exist with other Toyota platform or jeeps in terms of respect), but the "cruiser lean" or "KDSS lean" doesn't exist. It's only for shops or people who don't really know or don't really care to level everything out.
My BP-51s originally gave me a .25" lean down on the passenger side (US). Well talking to ARB I found out the rear A side spring goes on the passenger and the preload on my front driver side was 3mm spun down which all combined to give a lean.
Now on Icons, you can adjust preload on the truck just by jacking up the side to be adjusted and getting all load off the coil over. A spanner wrench is used and bam you're done. On BPs, you have to take the whole coil out, compress the spring and make your changes, then put it all back together, I'm sorry that is a bad design.
Now I can honestly say, that a 200 series wants the front coils to be exactly the same which is very uncommon but it works for us. So if you know to check prior to install you should be good, unless you are a heavy single driver or have built a drawer system in the back that doesn't distribute weight evenly, then further changes would need to be made.
Sorry for another long Taco post, but I felt this needed further explaining from my point of view.
As far as clunking goes, the BPs or icons are not the main cause of it, so don't let that sway you.
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Taco: Thanks for the post. Your points make complete sense. I truly appreciate the candor and honesty. I agree changing preload by removing springs can become costly and tiresome. I am pretty heavy and like to take as many people with me on road trips, if I am not able to change things easy on the fly it will drive me nuts. The cost of having to take it back to the shop and have it set will become very expensive over many years, more than the $1000 difference.
Do you know what the issue is causing the clunking?
Do you know what the issue is causing the clunking?
Taco2Cruiser
Crazy American Off Road
In this senario it is going to be different for everyone, I obviously have BPs and I have no noises at all as tested over a wide variety of terrains and speeds, my uppers are Total Chaos and that's it.
There are a lot of components in there, from the reservoirs that are annoying to get situated and can rub things, to bolts that were removed for installation and were not torqued to the right point by the installer, to enough reduced preload for factory plastic bumpers that the progressive coil is given just enough gap between wraps, and under a suspension cycle, is hitting itself.
I just want to ask you, compared to stock shocks, has the comfort level increased/decreased with your current setting? I am really confused lately, as I feel that the comfort level degraded a bit, but mostly at the back tires side as the care became more jumpy. Honestly I am not an expert at all when it comes to cars, I just need to know if your settings will fit a stock 200 or do I need to mind the additional weight you have at the back (I had the two extra seats removed from the back)
Markuson
SILVER Star
What springs did you put in back? If the ride it too stiff in the rear, that has more to do with which springs you installed. Springs are selected based on weight, or the weight added based on added mods like a heavy rear bumper, etc. If you feel it's too harsh in back, it may simply be that you need lighter springs.
Thanks
Thanks Markuson,
I believe it's the sprints, not sure what the guys installed in the garage, but it's OME (not sure about the number). Will check and I think I'd better ask to replace them as the car is mor at an angle now. Really appreciate it.
Thanks Markuson,
I believe it's the sprints, not sure what the guys installed in the garage, but it's OME (not sure about the number). Will check and I think I'd better ask to replace them as the car is mor at an angle now. Really appreciate it.
As a mud member who values this forum, I have to say that there have been failures of the BP-51s, and that DOES result in a clunk.
As a new system, that should shock no one. But from there, it all comes down to customer service. Once I complete my experience with this problem, I will be able to speak more to that.
