Okay can we do a "Blue sea" Installation for ultra mega Dummys..?? (1 Viewer)

[Patineto]

The fabrication, hand labor and wiring routing I can do all day long, but connecting the stuff/cables and placing the fuses, before and not after is absolutely belong me and I have a week of reading even Robert's super detail articles and still don't get it...

Small example of a trick I used last night for the first time, I use "carbon" (Nylon/thermoplastic) Braided casing for the wires and I stick three set of audio cable taping the head of one after the other (so the diameter was only about 1/2" and came out great so tight and flat..

This is the way I;m used to do thing (from the rally world) all seal and glued but easy to rip apart if necessary, maybe excessive but is very Zen for me....

!2 positions Blue sea, 6 live, six shut down with the ignition..

Fire wall seals already install.

Constant Iphone/Ipad Battery chargers (we use the truck everyday)

Two amps (about 500 watts each) (Under passenger front seats)

Six lowish power LED lights on the bumper.

Two massive Hella 3000 HID's and a 36" light bar in the roof and that is about it..

No fridge, no espresso maker, no Turn table DJ equipment, but it will be nice to have a converter in the back so I can change some battery's for power tools (simple Makita 18 volts.)

Oh and maybe some heavy duty power if my last spine fusion (3th one) goes wrong and I need to start riding on a powered wheelchair, needing a massive lift to transported on the truck (but I can do that later)

 

[Patineto]

Fantastic work, just the way I like all measure and layered, but the guy those not "Talk down" to you, very street level, super useful (I kind of already know half the stuff but I get confused really easy..

 

[george_tlc]

Audio cables and RCA jacks for your power runs??

Weatherpack and Metripack are cheap to purchase, have nice clip together connectors, have water/dust seals per wire and per connector and make for very clean installs that look and are professional. I buy mine in bulk lots (25 sets of connectors at a time) from Waytekwire and also source my automotive wire from them. They also sell decent quality and decent priced adhesive lined heatshrink.

Anyhow, something to consider...

cheers,
george.

 

[Patineto]

Audio cables and RCA jacks for your power runs??

Yo soy stupid, pero NO tan estupido..

Signal for my after market amp..

Weatherpack and Metripack are cheap to purchase, have nice clip together connectors, have water/dust seals per wire and per connector and make for very clean installs that look and are professional. I buy mine in bulk lots (25 sets of connectors at a time) from Waytekwire and also source my automotive wire from them. They also sell decent quality and decent priced adhesive lined heatshrink.

Anyhow, something to consider...

cheers,
george.

Thanks George

I have used Weatherpack on bikes many times, but where do used them to connect relays...??

To connect the light cables, For sure..

I'm confundido..

 

[george_tlc]

No - the weatherpack/metripack for all the power wiring - to bluesea stuff, i.e. to create harness structures that are easy to unplug if necessary. Obviously to connect to relays you need to use the 0.25" faston connectors. I personally prefer the fully sealed style that has the plastic all the way over the ends of the female connector portion. I also use the adhesive heatshrink to then seal the wire/connector ends. Also crimp not solder the connectors/cables.

It's just your title said bluesea and then you showed a bunch of RCA jacks... so the implication was that you had wired you power stuff up with RCA jacks and audio cables...

cheers,
george.

 

[Patineto]

No - the weatherpack/metripack for all the power wiring - to bluesea stuff, i.e. to create harness structures that are easy to unplug if necessary. Obviously to connect to relays you need to use the 0.25" faston connectors. I personally prefer the fully sealed style that has the plastic all the way over the ends of the female connector portion. I also use the adhesive heatshrink to then seal the wire/connector ends. Also crimp not solder the connectors/cables.

Oh you are my kind of people..

Thank you, I'm going to follow your steps..

It's just your title said bluesea and then you showed a bunch of RCA jacks... so the implication was that you had wired you power stuff up with RCA jacks and audio cables...

cheers,
george.

Doh...

My bad..

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

sometimes its hard to not grab the low hanging fruit...LOL stupid, but not STUPID

 

[Patineto]

sometimes its hard to not grab the low hanging fruit...LOL stupid, but not STUPID

Oh really living in San Francisco I became really good friends with a woman that work for monster cable, we use to ride together, have fun but she had no idea how a bicycle work, so I teach her step by step, the reward, boxes and boxes of their best stuff, she had a boom box and that was it and a "Kill your TV" sticker on her bicycle..

So as much as I'm into audio and video my apartment floor will fall apart from all the weight, so I give a bunch to my friends and sold even more on craigslist..

Even then I still have plenty, very thick RCA cables, almost gauge 8, well a little less but good 4-5mm thick..

I just never imagine they will be proper for power transmission..

 

[george_tlc]

^ Monster cables is ummmm.... targeted to a certain segment of the market that requires things like oxygen free copper etc... Those folk belong to a special category of audio equipment/gear collectors known as audiophools....

Anyhow, the MOST important aspect of cable for power transmission is not the copper (we can assume it IS copper). It is the insulation that you really need to worry about. i.e. 8g is 8g (unless some really bad made in ???? stuff where they may have copper plated steel...). The insulation is what will protect from shorting your wiring to itself or the body of the vehicle and its abrasion resistance and heat resistance is the important spec. Audio cable (like Monster cable) is generally meant to 'look good' and make you part with your $$$...

Buying automotive wire from a reputable source ensures the quality and type of insulation and to a lesser extent that it actually is copper etc

cheers,
george.

 

[Patineto]

You see I got confused already..

The guy on the video uses a "Distribution block" with one connection in/on out but how the hell you don't get confuse with what is what and goes where..

I like the Blue seal because each of the wires is easy to trace and locate, or at least that is what I'm looking for..

Note: On my BMW motorcycles I uses much smaller fuse blocks (Centech) but only a single relay to operate everything, maybe the reason (one of them) I'm confused.

I'm playing to make a "Umbrella/hood" for the truck too..

Their is not a "Water seal" but since water "Usually" does not run up hill is totally water proof (Condensation, well that is another story) but I never got around making a vent for it..

 

[Patineto]

^ Monster cables is ummmm.... targeted to a certain segment of the market that requires things like oxygen free copper etc... Those folk belong to a special category of audio equipment/gear collectors known as audiophools....

Anyhow, the MOST important aspect of cable for power transmission is not the copper (we can assume it IS copper). It is the insulation that you really need to worry about. i.e. 8g is 8g (unless some really bad made in ???? stuff where they may have copper plated steel...). The insulation is what will protect from shorting your wiring to itself or the body of the vehicle and its abrasion resistance and heat resistance is the important spec. Audio cable (like Monster cable) is generally meant to 'look good' and make you part with your $$$...

Buying automotive wire from a reputable source ensures the quality and type of insulation and to a lesser extent that it actually is copper etc

cheers,
george.

Oh George is a new sucker born every second..

Yes I feel for them at one time, then is if not for Sarah I will never get another set..

But let me tell you living in san francisco I got to meet all kinds of people and from time to time did work on some insane houses..

Why I work in the house, because one of this guys that convince squimals to buy his ice, will sell mega dot comers and heavy tech guys a "Hearing test" and will sell them "music appreciation paraphernalia", monster cables where for the mades room, some of this suckers purchase "Water cooled speaker cables" some like 50mm thick, nitrogenous this and that and different speakers for each side of the "Room" since the signals where persevered differently.. (hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars)

Emperor new clothes, syndrome, No never, apparently now with all the Facebookers they have even more ridiculous scams..

Oh the cost of the test in the late 90's around $7000 and even if the engineers where from Stanford, half the stuff where "steampunk props" mix with some obsolete oscilloscopes but that look really kool, and the real data gather with a few tiny microphones and a brick of a laptop..

 

[Patineto]

Tip: SAAB's have beautiful fuse boxes, all Bosch relays, great holders, nice tick super soft and bendable wires and the best wrapping i have ever seeing and they are plentiful at the pick and pull..

Being a dummy, I only purchase the relays and the holders instead of the whole box (the lady also tell me it will be cheaper to get the whole box) and now I need to make my own (Pelican box coming up.. (the fuse box was much to big anyway and did not have a lid)

 

[Patineto]

I know, I know stupid question..

Okay I have my blue sea fuse box, my inline breakers and my relays with bases (I'm going to mount the relays on a small pelican box, just for looks I guess since the bottom is going to have holes..

All this is going to go on the drivers side of my lc100 as close to the battery as possible on a single aluminum tray..

I know the breakers need to be as close to the battery so they go first (the most forward) but do I put the relays, before the bluesea...?? I think NOt.. it need to be the other way but I don't want to waste my work if I place them in the wrong order..

Little help please..

Oh what are the best grommets to get so the wires don't get shaven..?? (1/16" plate)

 

[JCruse]

What are the relays for?

I have my BS system with just an ACR between the batteries, Buss breakers by each battery, and a nice little battery terminal mounted 150A fuse (Below) feeding the BS six position fuse box.


This was a real help when I had pretty much run out of space around the house battery.

 

[Patineto]

Mini self for two single Blue sea Breakers.

This is just for "Bling" (some bathroom tiling product)

Man I was a Hack, now I'm a blind/shaky Hack.

 

[Patineto]

Next time I just Stagger the breakers (still parallel to the wall of the truck but with the cables closer to the side of the truck so the can be affix with less bending) and place them like a "Honey comb" and make the platform longer and narrower (since is on a cantilever, to minimize vibration but mostly just to geek out)

The idea came to me a second ago, playing "hexbug" with my girls, such a fun little toy, even if you don't kiddos get some, I bet cats will love them too..

 

[Patineto]

Even If I'm clueless about the order of the sequence on the bosch relays and blue sea.

I build a mega plate all of tini holes so I can ziptie all the wires the best way possible.

Man working on Stainless steel with hand tools in no joke.

I end up with up with a 6&6 Blue sea, it will be great if the made a 8 by 4 but How well, Yes to make relays I know.

Ups, I install the bluesea upside down, not like i'm not going to take it ten time more before I;m finish..

I'm done, everything will be very tight and secure, I just have no clye how to do the wirering..

Electricity I may not know poop, but I can work doing fancy hair for beauty queens all day long..

 

[Patineto]

I love Riv-nuts, so very useful, easy and clean.

Turkey dinner crap day, no time for anything else.

I Use the battery ground bolt and i made a slot on the part I made so i don't need to take all the way..

It works great, no to find time to do the main wires.

 

[Patineto]

A friend convince me to cut the plate and only use to relays, one for the permanent one for the "ignition On" only..

Is he right or i'm wrong..??

 

[JaketheSSnake]

If your relays can handle the load. I have one side hooked directly to the battery with an 80 amp fuse for stuff I want hot all the time, no relay. The other side of the panel is hooked to a 40 amp "ignition on" relay. Hopefully I don't exceed 40 amps on those 6 circuits, but I think I'm good so far.