Are there any hidden bolts holding the pan on? I have all the bolts out that I can see but am having trouble getting the pan to come loose. I have read a few FAQ and threads and no luck so far. Any suggestions would be appreciated. JB
Oil pan removal
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Some people have had luck using a jack against the frame to press the oil pan sideways.
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I think that's the only thing I have not done. I'll try it as I am worn out fooling with it. Thanks, JB
I had to use to four foot pry bars after chiseling one side of the pan. made me second guess replacing it.
oh and save yourself some trouble and make sure you install a good bit of sealant on the front and rear portions of the gasket between the gasket and pan AND gasket and block.
oh and save yourself some trouble and make sure you install a good bit of sealant on the front and rear portions of the gasket between the gasket and pan AND gasket and block.
No hidden bolts, just the ones around the circumference on the flanges. The cork gasket gets cemented up rock hard after the passage of years however. You need to apply leverage, preferably evenly along one long side of the oil pan, with a 2x4 and a bottle jack.
My strategy on this item was to pay someone else to do it. This was one of the few things I've every paid to have done on this truck.
When I went to pick it up at a garage that specializes in older Toyotas, they guy was embarrased at how long it took him to do the job and only charged me for an hour or hour and a half. The other thing I've had done is the $19 oil changes at the Toyota dealer where they do a 50 point check including pulling the drum brakes, inspect and readjust them. That's a deal.
When I went to pick it up at a garage that specializes in older Toyotas, they guy was embarrased at how long it took him to do the job and only charged me for an hour or hour and a half. The other thing I've had done is the $19 oil changes at the Toyota dealer where they do a 50 point check including pulling the drum brakes, inspect and readjust them. That's a deal.
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Thanks to all for the replies. I will have another go at it tomorrow with the jack and a block of wood. I am afraid I have bent the flange to the degree that I may be looking for a new pan. O well, as the man says "It's only money". Thanks again, JB
You can put it on a piece of wood on the garage floor and hammer it back flat. Use a length of 2x4 as a dolly.
If using a stock cork gasket, and you should, you need sealant only at the four pointy junction points. Pay attention to the torque spec which is in in-lbs. It is much less than you would tighten it if you weren't paying attention.
If using a stock cork gasket, and you should, you need sealant only at the four pointy junction points. Pay attention to the torque spec which is in in-lbs. It is much less than you would tighten it if you weren't paying attention.
X2 on the 2x4 I bent my flange as well and had to straighten it with a piece of wood but PLEASE listen to me when I say put a good bit of sealant on the entire hump section front and rear and on both sides of the gasket.
I recently did mine on my fj60 and had only applied sealant between the pan and gasket and then only on the corners. (Between gasket and block) well it still leaked because the hump portions of the factory toyota gasket are not cork and extremely hard so they don't contour to the shape of the block. I ended up pulling back off last week and resealing it. The first time around it took me 4 hours to do the oil pan gasket and that's with using a lift and I already had the front drive shaft out of the way from the h55 install. I spent 30-45 min of that cleaning parts. Second time around I had it in and out in an hour.
Who is you Toyota Dealer? The one here in FT. Myers, Fl. won't even LOOK at my rig, much less work on it.(well not completely true-one of the Service techs came out to see it and asked "is that a real Land Cruiser?")--I don't think I would trust them to do an oil change.
I don't remember having too much trouble removing the oil pan, but I definitely would not expect to use hydraulic pressure to force it off. That would pretty much guarantee a bent flange. If it were mine, I would tap a series of thin screwdriver blades along one edge and gradually increase the thickness of the blades as the surface opened up. Since we are working with steel on both surfaces, and since there is some remaining cork gasket that will be displaced, that would seem to cause the least damage to me.
Roma - What sealant would you suggest using, Permatex - Ultra Black, Permatex - The Right Stuff, Yamabond or something else?
I need to put a new oil pan gasket on mine. Just had the motor rebuilt, leaked, never even drove the thing. Removed the oil pan, added more sealant, used high temp and it still leaks. The next time I'm using a new gasket with the Ultra black permatex.
I have some luck with taking out all of the bolts and then hitting it as hard as i can with a rubber mallet. The sharp raps tend to loosen the seal just enough to let me pry it loose the rest of the way. These pans are pretty tough though and its pretty hard to destroy them, just not impossible. I would not use anything but the grey sealant, if you can get the Toyota grey sealant even better.
I work at a Honda/acura dealership so I am partial to hondabond the stuff is amazing. I have used it on all of my Toyotas. Honda uses it to seal manual transmissions as well as timing covers oil pans and block halves so its perfect for the job...plus its free for me since they bill out a whole tube of it as long as the job calls for it no matter how small the job.
I had that work done up north. Any dealer can do oil change and brake adjust. Some even have a grey beard or two on staff.
Germain in Naples even had an FJ40 in their showroom last time I was there.
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It's OFF. The jack worked like a charm. In fact the factory bottle jack that came with the truck worked best. Thanks again to all who replied to my cry for help. And who ever was the first to think of using a jack in that way is a genius. I do not think I would have ever thought of it. This proves once again that my signature line is correct. LOL Thanks again, JB
Good luck. Let me know how it goes if you go there. It's worth a try. I don't know if I would take it there for anything complicated but if they had an oil change special, sure. Only 12 mi from me, but I left my 40 up north. I miss her.