OEM tires (1 Viewer)

[doru]

Hi all,
is there a place to find out what were the OEM tires model for our trucks. Previous owner changed them on my 2013 LX.
I saw the tire database but it has only aftermarket and specifically AT/off-road tires.
Thanks

P.S. I'm not asking about size. I'm asking about manufacturer and model. Example: my current tires are Kumho Crugen HP71.

 

[grinchy]

Probably 285/50r20 on the LX570, but some models in later years can come with 21s.

 

[Leaky2014]

Drivers side door jam

 

[doru]

To clarify: I know the size (also available in the manual, door jamb, and online).
I'm asking about manufacturer and model. Example: my current tires are Kumho Crugen HP71.

 

[Leaky2014]

To clarify: I know the size (also available in the manual, door jamb, and online).
I'm asking about manufacturer and model. Example: my current tires are Kumho Crugen HP71.

You can't and don't want to buy OEM tires, they suck, only the manufacturer, the factory, has access to those tires.
They are usually crap and wear much faster than the "same" tire you can get aftermarket.
Same is true for motorcycles, but far worse than autos.

 

[Sandroad]

OEM are the Dunlop GrandTrek AT23 on a LC. Don’t know about an LX. You can find the OEM tires for most any vehicle using the Tire Rack site by selecting the OEM filter for tires after inputting year, make, and model.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Grandtrek+AT23&partnum=86VR8AT23V2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Toyota&autoYear=2017&autoModel=Land%20Cruiser&autoModClar=

Edits added above……..Hmmm…….I see now the OP is asking about an LX and for some reason the Tire Rack does not list an OEM for a ‘13.

 

[04UZJ100]

You can't and don't want to buy OEM tires, they suck, only the manufacturer, the factory, has access to those tires.
They are usually crap and wear much faster than the "same" tire you can get aftermarket.
Same is true for motorcycles, but far worse than autos.

This is not true. “OEM” tires are Japanese made Dunlop AT23s. Why they receive so much hate, for a street tire I’ll never know. We had multiple sets across 2 100 series go a combined 500k.

 

[CT3]

I think I still have my take-off set of AT23s from the 2020. Not sure where you are located but could work out if you wanted to buy them.

 

[mceagle555]

To clarify: I know the size (also available in the manual, door jamb, and online).
I'm asking about manufacturer and model. Example: my current tires are Kumho Crugen HP71.

Vehicle manufacturers will always list a stock SIZE of tire, but don't always list a specific BRAND/MODEL of tire. (Due to supply chain issues or for models with hundreds of thousands of units sold.)

If you are looking for the most "stock" feel, go with the stock size in your door jamb, but Michelin LTX MS Defender or older LTX MS2. Long lasting tire and the one most often put on at a Lexus dealer when doing replacements.

 

[urinalcake]

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[grinchy]

My 2009 LX had Dunlop Grandtrek 23 in 285/50r20. Someone want an original 13 yr old tire? It's not roadworthy, but you can mount it on your mantel.

 

[tacoduck]

I hate dunflops. Mr T tends to hedge on tires and puts multiple types on the same vehicle, to prevent the Firestone Ford Explorer fiasco. When Lexus went to 21’s, they really screwed owners on available aftermarket tires.
If OP is rolling on 20’s the Michelin defender tire is a great stock tire.

 

[manofthewoods]

This is not true. “OEM” tires are Japanese made Dunlop AT23s. Why they receive so much hate, for a street tire I’ll never know. We had multiple sets across 2 100 series go a combined 500k.

I also don't get the hate. I cruised through a nasty high Sierra blizzard with them. Passed people like they were in park. Never felt unsteady. Not saying that they are the "best," for every use case. But, the guys who made the vehicle we seem to like weren't likely to somehow intentionally mount crappy sneakers.

 

[bloc]

If you are looking for the most "stock" feel, go with the stock size in your door jamb, but Michelin LTX MS2 Defender. Long lasting tire and the one most often put on at a Lexus dealer when doing replacements.

Per the Michelin website MS2s aren't available in 285 section width on 20s.
The LTX M/S is though. Not sure of the differences.

 

[TeCKis300]

I have a different take on OEM tires,. If the priority is maximum bandwidth across competencies, they are the cheater tires to beat.

Enthusiasts are a different creature. We have romanticized use cases. If this board is any indication, we'll sacrifice many things to get there. That the OEM tires don't over-achieve in enthusiast use cases, is no surprise.

OEMs spend tons of money tuning the car for specific tires that are built to their requirements. Even if branded the same, as someone said earlier, the tire sold in the aftermarket are often not exactly like like those from the factory. Compounds, tread depths, and things I don't understand are tailored. To create a product that meets MPG targets, performance numbers, etc.

 

[tacoduck]

I have a different take on OEM tires,. If the priority is maximum bandwidth across competencies, they are the cheater tires to beat.

Enthusiasts are a different creature. We have romanticized use cases. If this board is any indication, we'll sacrifice many things to get there. That the OEM tires don't over-achieve in enthusiast use cases, is no surprise.

OEMs spend tons of money tuning the car for specific tires that are built to their requirements. Even if branded the same, as someone said earlier, the tire sold in the aftermarket are often not exactly like like those from the factory. Compounds, tread depths, and things I don't understand are tailored. To create a product that meets MPG targets, performance numbers, etc.

I disagree on oem’s spending tons on r&d on the perfect tire. Imo, those would be the Michelin ltx defenders, but they are more expensive than dunlops, therefore, we get dunlops.
Car manufacturers continue to deal with ever bigger vehicles with more crap on em as well as EPA mpg mandates. Bigger = heavier. Mr t deleted tundra front recovery points because most don’t use em, they add weight, and they hurt aero. I think it’s dumb as hell, but I’m not in the car business (thank god). Car companies are run by lawyers and bean counters these days, and that’s why they put stupid looking tires on 90k heritage LC’s.
That said, I appreciate jeep putting bfg’s on their top line rubicon trucks. Imo it adds to the capability and aesthetics.
We also are seeing the rise in popularity of 22’s on trucks. They are as useless as tits on a boar, but buyers want em, I guess.

 

[tacoduck]

Per the Michelin website MS2s aren't available in 285 section width on 20s.
The LTX M/S is though. Not sure of the differences.

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[bloc]

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Original tire size is 285/50r20

 

[Madtiger]

Stock Dunlops did fine in this off-road trail:

Not sure about LX, but the factory Dunlops for LC is EXPENSIVE AS HELL despite poor treadwear rating!!! I have been trying to ask everyone why this is the case…no one can give me an answer. I understand that they are made in Japan i think…and thus import charges?? But, at least, on this forum, i have not read of a tire failure off-road for those who used them off-road…so, that is a good thing i guess.

FYI…some trim levels of Tundra comes from factory with Michelin AT2…so, Toyota has access to Michelin tires if it wanted to use them.

 

[Madtiger]

I disagree on oem’s spending tons on r&d on the perfect tire. Imo, those would be the Michelin ltx defenders, but they are more expensive than dunlops, therefore, we get dunlops.

I believe that the factory Dunlops (at least for LC) is more expensive than any Michelin Defender…per TireRack, Dunlops costs $150 MORE than Defender in stock size!!