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A few people have been asking if you can convert a regular non-york type air conditioning compressor for use as an onboard air compressor.

The answer is: maybe.

The swash-plate type compressors will make air just fine, like a York, but because they don't have outboard lubrication, you have to oil your compressor each time before you use it. I oil mine before each use, and after every 30 minutes of run-time. This also introduces oil mist to the system, and this oil can end up in your tires. But a coalescing filter can be used to remove this.

On my 97 LX450, I elected to use a corolla a/c compressor because I had a few of them lying around. If you're going out of your way to BUY an a/c compressor, I recommend you get a York one, unless the York is too big to fit in the space that you have. If you have a turbo, or a tight engine bay in a non-80 application (5vz 4Runner, etc) or wish to remove your air conditioning and convert the original a/c comp into an OBA comp, then this is the way to go. Or if you've got a bunch of free but working compressors lying around :D

First thing I did was install a spare a/c clutch and pulley from an 80 so that the pulley matched what was already on the a/c compressor in the vehicle. Next part, I had my buddy the machinist make a bracket to fit the a/c compressor up high beside the head. By using a much longer belt, I can use a single belt to drive both the a/c compressor and my OBA compressor. The new belt just clears the fan hub by about 1/4" and is tensioned by the original a/c compressor belt tensioner down below. Belt sizing is a bit tricky, it can take a few tries to get it right. Mine's 58" long.

The inlet is a chunk of a/c piping from the donor vehicle. It's about 5/8" diameter, so I installed a K&N push-on filter to keep debris out of the air inlet. It's a slip-on fit, so I pull it off to squirt lube oil into the compressor to keep it happy.

The outlet of my compressor has a AN-10 (5/8 JIC-10) fitting installed on it, allowing me to use hard piping to the manifold with pressure switch and quick-connector. Hard piping also runs down the left side of the engine to a spot next to the transmission. From there, a short length of AN-10 braided hose connects the pipe to the 2-gal air tank. The ends of the piping are all bracketed in place to minimize damage from vibration.

The piping I used is 5/8 aluminum 'fuel pipe' that you can get from summit racing and other racecar supply shops. It's easily formed by hand so there is no need for a pipe bender. The brass ends I used are from Home Depot, for 5/8 flare connections, which happen to also be JIC-10 and AN-10 compatible. If you prefer anodized aluminum, You can use AN-10 tube nuts to match the aluminum tubing. The brass ones are cheaper, and I didn't want red and blue racecar stuff hanging off my non-racecar engine. You will need a pipe flaring tool to install the tube nuts and fittings.

The tank is important to reduce compressor surge, and to reduce the on/off switching of the compressor clutch. The less on/off switching there is, the longer the clutch will last. It is, after all, a friction clutch. And a tiny one at that. For tire inflation there is no advantage to using a huge tank over a tiny one. 2-gal tanks are small, easy to hide, and relatively affordable. You can even raid an old 110v compressor for the tank if you want.

The tank I used is from Firestone, for their airbag systems. You can use any tank and fit it anywhere on the vehicle. I prefer NOT to install compressed air stuff in the cabin of the truck. Choose a well-protected spot underneath somewhere. Mine lives under the driver's seat on the outside of the frame rail. The sliders offer adequate protection, but a small plate will be added to the slider soon.

Pressure switches are available from various sources. VIAIR and firestone and all the low-rider airbag supply companies can supply you with a low-current switch. Mine is a 80/110 and totally adequate for tire inflation or running air tools.

My manifold is a simple block of aluminum with ORB-8 bosses and some 1/8NPT and 1/4NPT ports. I bolted mine to the engine removal loop, and used a 1/8" roll-pin to keep it from rotating. If I need to pull the engine, the manifold will unbolt and allow full use of the hanging loop. ORB-8 to JIC-10 adapters are cheap and easy. Any hydraulics supply shop will have these for a few bucks each. If you don't have a way to make ORB-8 bosses, you can simply tap them with 3/8NPT and use NPT-JIC adapters. Same deal.

A hand throttle is very handy when using any form of engine-driven OBA. Remember that your output doubles at 1500 rpm versus at idle speeds!

Some day I will permanently wire this thing up, with an interior switch and all that, and a pressure gauge in the dash. Some day.

In the mean time, this system is fully functional. And since I open the hood to oil the compressor and hook up my coily air hose, I use a jumper wire between the pressure switch and the (+) positive terminal of my battery.
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The air gauge is a simple affair with a ball-valve, gauge, and clip-on air chuck. In a pinch, it can be used to air-down tires as well, but its much slower than the ARB-type gauges that remove the tire stem. To use, clip the gauge to the tire stem, and the gauge will read the tire pressure. Open the ball-valve and the compressor will air up the tire. Ignore the gauge pressure at this point, as it reads 'system' pressure. To check your tire pressures, close the ball valve.

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A 25ft coily type air hose will reach all the tires on your truck. And your buddy's truck if they park close enough. This hose will stow in your left-rear storage compartment, just tuck it ahead of the fuel filler in that big empty space. Plug it into itself before storage, so that dirt and debris doesn't get into the hose or the couplers. I recommend polyurethane hose in 1/4" but nylon works fine and is 1/5 the price.

Cheers!
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I am planning on doing this same oba setup but with a Sanden 508. I have found some posts on a low rider site where they filled the sanden with high temp grease and didn't need any oil.

Can you post some pictures of the bracket and how it mounts to the block/head. It would be much appreciated.
 
Very nice install. I had orginally planned to use a swash type compressor as well, but gave up after not being able to get a pulley machined for a reasonable price (never thought of running a belt off the a/c compressor). I got a Sanden compressor, hoses and fittings at no charge from a company I used to work for (Mobile Climate Control), but the costs for the manifold, air hoses, fittings, oil filter, etc. came up to over $300. In the end I mounted a 1/2 hp DC powered DC5000 air compressor. it won't give anything near the volume of air that an a/c ocmpressor will, but I think the install is a little cleaner.
 
I was thinking of running an automatic oiler with the Denso to continuously oil it while it is running. It would use:
1) Small oil reservoir of about 50 ml oil that is pressurized by the outlet of the compressor before the unloader valve so that it is only pressurized when the compressor is running.
2) The bottom of the reservoir is plumbed to the inlet of the compressor via a capillary tube so that it drips a drop into the inlet every 30 seconds or so of running time. You would need to determine the capillary diameter for the type of oil used.
 
Pinhead there's guys using a regular auto-oiler on the suction side of the compressor. Apparently it works. I'll just squirt in a teaspoon of oil every half hour of run time on mine.

For me, this was a low budget compressor install. If/when it dies I will swap in another spare. When I'm sick of them dying I will put in a York. I've run this setup for years (maybe 40-50 hours of run time) on my 84 mini and finally the compressor died on its current owner. On my 80 it's been there for about a year and run for about a dozen hours so far.
 

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