No lift shock options/tire suggestions

[WhiskeyMike]

Hey guys! Forgive me in advance. No doubt this question or similar has been asked 1000 times before and yes… I did use the search function and it only confused me further!

Here’s what I’ve got. I’ve got a 2016 200 and I’d like to upgrade my OEM suspension. I’ve got about 101,000 miles on the original setup. I don’t want to lift it (wife/4 yr old) but I would love to improve body roll, ride, etc. I’d also like to put the spacers up front to decrease the rake. What shocks/struts etc would you recommend and why? Dobinson’s have interested me but I really don’t know enough to make a decision. This truck is my daily, so 99.9% of the time it’s a grocery getter. The only weight I’d like to add is an aux fuel tank but that is down the road.

I’m also due for tires. I love the aggressive look, but noise (or lack thereof) is probably the most important thing for me.

I would love to know your thoughts and also see pics of your rigs! Thanks in advance.

 

[bentonrover]

I'm also in that same boat. Not a fan of lifted rigs. Looking for something a little stiffer to help with the added weight of winch bumper and roof rack

 

[7000ft]

I'm also in that same boat. Not a fan of lifted rigs. Looking for something a little stiffer to help with the added weight of winch bumper and roof rack

I installed the Bilstein B6 4600 F/R shocks with the front 1" OEM spacers with stock springs. Much better ride and handling in my opinion.
Tires Nitto Ridge Grappler 285x65x18 .
Bilstein B6 4600 Front, Rear Shocks For 2008-2021 Toyota Land Cruiser 200 - https://www.suspensionlifts.com/shop/toyota-land-cruiser/200-series-toyota-land-cruiser/bilstein-b6-4600-front-rear-shocks-for-2008-2020-toyota-land-cruiser-200/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw166aBhDEARIsAMEyZh61xwLDwUFbm-gj8lvJFXW-CCIxjUZhEKe2kF0r-9FlIs1tffBUDh4aAg5xEALw_wcB

 

[WhiskeyMike]

Exactly what I’m looking for! Thank you

 

[7000ft]

Exactly what I’m looking for! Thank you

This is my second Land Cruiser with this setup and I've been very happy with it.

 

[bentonrover]

I installed the Bilstein B6 4600 F/R shocks with the front 1" OEM spacers with stock springs. Much better ride and handling in my opinion.
Tires Nitto Ridge Grappler 285x65x18 .
Bilstein B6 4600 Front, Rear Shocks For 2008-2021 Toyota Land Cruiser 200 - https://www.suspensionlifts.com/shop/toyota-land-cruiser/200-series-toyota-land-cruiser/bilstein-b6-4600-front-rear-shocks-for-2008-2020-toyota-land-cruiser-200/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw166aBhDEARIsAMEyZh61xwLDwUFbm-gj8lvJFXW-CCIxjUZhEKe2kF0r-9FlIs1tffBUDh4aAg5xEALw_wcB

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Looks great

 

[TeCKis300]

I likewise would recommend the Bilsteins. They have a digressive damping rate which should help for your handling goals on-road, without sacrifice to off-road capability. They should be extended length relative to the stock shocks enabling more articulation. I'll defer to @7000ft , but I believe the front perch is adjustable which should take care of the rake without an additional spacer?

 

[7000ft]

I likewise would recommend the Bilsteins. They have a digressive damping rate which should help for your handling goals on-road, without sacrifice to off-road capability. They should be extended length relative to the stock shocks enabling more articulation. I'll defer to @7000ft , but I believe the front perch is adjustable which should take care of the rake without an additional spacer?

The fronts are not adjustable, so I had my installer use the 1" factory spacers.

 

[Docwyte]

Here's my '18 with the Bilstein 6112/5160's. The front struts are on their lowest perch and I kept the rear springs stock. I ended up with about a 1.5" lift in the front and a 1/2" lift in the back. The handling and lack of brake dive on it now are vastly improved, I enjoy driving it far more now.

 

[WhiskeyMike]

Here's my '18 with the Bilstein 6112/5160's. The front struts are on their lowest perch and I kept the rear springs stock. I ended up with about a 1.5" lift in the front and a 1/2" lift in the back. The handling and lack of brake dive on it now are vastly improved, I enjoy driving it far more now.
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What size tires are you running?

 

[Docwyte]

The factory 17", so 285/70/17

 

[LNDYAT]

The fronts are not adjustable, so I had my installer use the 1" factory spacers.

There is a collar with 3 settings on the front strut. What I keep reading and my understanding is, lowest position is stock spring under normal tension no lift and highest position would equal a Toyota spacer lift but the spring is under more tension effectively increasing spring rate. Does that sound correct?

 

[7000ft]

There is a collar with 3 settings on the front strut. What I keep reading and my understanding is, lowest position is stock spring under normal tension no lift and highest position would equal a Toyota spacer lift but the spring is under more tension effectively increasing spring rate. Does that sound correct?

I'm afraid you are incorrect about the B6 4600 shocks being adjustable. I called Bilstein and their technical advisor said the B6 4600 shocks are not adjustable.
Here is a shock warehouse answering this question:
Ride height changed after Bilstein B6 installation - Shockwarehouse.com - https://www.shockwarehouse.com/news/stories/ride-height-changed-after-bilstein-b6-installation.cfm#:~:text=While%20there%20are%20Bilstein%20products%20that%20are%20adjustable%2C,bad%20shape%20that%20they%20actually%20lowered%20the%20car%3B

 

[LNDYAT]

I'm afraid you are incorrect about the B6 4600 shocks being adjustable. I called Bilstein and their technical advisor said the B6 4600 shocks are not adjustable.
Here is a shock warehouse answering this question:
Ride height changed after Bilstein B6 installation - Shockwarehouse.com - https://www.shockwarehouse.com/news/stories/ride-height-changed-after-bilstein-b6-installation.cfm#:~:text=While%20there%20are%20Bilstein%20products%20that%20are%20adjustable%2C,bad%20shape%20that%20they%20actually%20lowered%20the%20car%3B

 

[TeCKis300]

Wondering if we're talking past each other.

From @LNDYAT pic, they do look to be height adjustable with 3 perch settings. Perhaps @7000ft is saying that they do not have adjustable damping?

 

[LNDYAT]

Wondering if we're talking past each other.

From @LNDYAT pic, they do look to be height adjustable with 3 perch settings. Perhaps @7000ft is saying that they do not have adjustable damping?

I hope that’s the case, I was referring to height however with my inquiry.

 

[Yossarian]

A picture is worth a thousand words right? That is unless Bilstein changed the shock. A quick search confirms they are the same as I installed years ago. FYI - running OEM spacers and adjustable perch in the middle position.

Here is the thread on the topic, look at the start date. Bilsteins for the 200 - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/bilsteins-for-the-200.670847/

 

[LNDYAT]

A picture is worth a thousand words right? That is unless Bilstein changed the shock. A quick search confirms they are the same as I installed years ago. FYI - running OEM spacers and adjustable perch in the middle position.

Here is the thread on the topic, look at the start date. Bilsteins for the 200 - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/bilsteins-for-the-200.670847/

That thread is the reason for my purchase.

I installed the Bilstein B6 4600 F/R shocks with the front 1" OEM spacers with stock springs. Much better ride and handling in my opinion.
Tires Nitto Ridge Grappler 285x65x18 .
Bilstein B6 4600 Front, Rear Shocks For 2008-2021 Toyota Land Cruiser 200 - https://www.suspensionlifts.com/shop/toyota-land-cruiser/200-series-toyota-land-cruiser/bilstein-b6-4600-front-rear-shocks-for-2008-2020-toyota-land-cruiser-200/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw166aBhDEARIsAMEyZh61xwLDwUFbm-gj8lvJFXW-CCIxjUZhEKe2kF0r-9FlIs1tffBUDh4aAg5xEALw_wcB

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What position did you leave the front strut collar at?