NO fast idle on startup after repair? (1 Viewer)

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Hi,

I know you all are probably sick of talking about this topic but I searched and couldn't find this specific problem. Most posts are concerned about lowering the fast idle. My truck has LOST the warm up idle after putting it in the body shop for a door repair.

When I crank it cold, it makes an initial "vroom" and then quickly drops down to 6-800 rpm. Once it is warm, it idles at a stop at about 400 rpm. (too low for me) Any suggestions on what could have happened at the body shop and what I should check? My first troubleshooting will be to find the coolant temp sensor in the FSM and see if they knocked the lead off. My other thought is maybe the ECU is kicking into some default mode due to an error? There are no "check engine lights" on.

Powell

P.S. - I included a more detailed history below if necessary...


History

I had a complete tune-up at Toyota less than 500 miles ago. The idle has always been about 130-1400 rpm when cold and then slowly drops down to ~600 rpm when warm.

My truck got hit in the driver's side door and I put it in the body shop to have it repaired. They put a new piece of sheet metal on the existing door and repainted the door and color-matched it to the body panels surrounding it. They tell me that the only thing they did under the hood was to disconnect the ground of the battery.

When I got the truck back, I cranked it and was surprised when it started, it gave an initial short "vroom" and then quickly dropped down to between 400-600 rpm. I just figured it had been sitting and was slightly warm already so I drove it around. There was also a quarter tank of gas in it so I filled it up.

The next morning, I cranked it when totally cold and it did almost the same thing. Initial "vroom" on startup and immediately dropped to about 6-800rpm. When giving it a little gas, the engine was running rough until i revved it to about 12-1400 rpm. Once it is warmed up, the idle sits a little too low around 400 rpm.

I've put about 150 miles on it now and it is still doing this. Any ideas on what could have happened? I've looked under the hood and haven't seen anything obvious disconnected.
 
I'd try disconnecting the battery again, and let the ecu reset itself.
 
wob said:
I'd try disconnecting the battery again, and let the ecu reset itself.
I would bet they disconneted the battery at the shop and you have not ran it long enuf for the ecu to relearn.

How long have you had it back? How long have you run it\started it?
 
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Hi, thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that. I tried disconnecting the battery yesterday morning for about 15 minutes and hooked it back up. I noticed that the ground terminal was loose when I did this. Afterward, I drove it up to Atlanta and back. About 125 miles worth of driving and it was still idling too low. It sat overnight and I just went out and cranked it now. Guess what? It worked fine!!! What a relief!

So, word to the wise... if you disconnect your battery for a week, it could take a lot of driving and several days for the ECU to relearn how to control your engine. Funny thing is I replaced the battery with a new unit about six months ago and had the battery unplugged for about 15 minutes and didn't have this problem. It must just happen when it is a long period of time.


Thanks for the help!

Powell
 
, word to the wise... if you disconnect your battery for a week, it could take a lot of driving and several days for the ECU to relearn how to control your engine. Funny thing is I replaced the battery with a new unit about six months ago and had the battery unplugged for about 15 minutes and didn't have this problem. It must just happen when it is a long period of time.

I recall reading a thread re this exact thing. Once battery is disconnected, truck has to driven a few cycles for it to re-learn/re-set itself.
 
Thanks Dan. I guess it would help for me to page down to the followup pages after looking at the first page of results... <g>

I was just amazed that it took as long as it did to relearn. From the posts, I would not have expected it to take that long. Maybe it is not the length you drive it but the number of times you start it, kill it , start it again, etc.

Thanks,

Powell
 
Ye old 95 does it everytime the battery is disconnected. It usually takes 3-5 startup/drives to correct this. :D
 
pcruiser80 said:
Thanks Dan. Maybe it is not the length you drive it but the number of times you start it, kill it , start it again, etc.



Powell


Exactly correct.
 

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