New to me M416... Tire future questoon (1 Viewer)

[eclipsegst97]

Hi all .. picked up this m416 the other day
Trying to decide future if it's tires. Id like to do mild trails gravel, shale for overland but could see it doing some offroading where my 33s skid plates etc come into play.

Would the current model / type of tires on it be up for that ? Would they also be good on highway dry / wet ?

Is it worth it( for off-road and highway manners) to potentially try match the trailers tires to my GX470 rims / tires?
That might involve a new axle as adapters would push the tires to far out and not lete park it where I need to when not in use

It currently runs tubes and not sure as well worth it to change to tubeless .
Seems the date code on the tires is feb 1969... So a little.off. ( Only found a 02-69 imprint on the tire)
Appreciate any help as id like to take it out this summer vs making a project out of it

 

[ntsqd]

I see no need for trailer tires to be the same size as the tow rig tires. The argument made for doing it is only one spare and can use any tire anywhere. I'd never go into the back country with only one spare, and I've never, ever seen someone abandon a trailer in the back country because of multiple flats. Factor in that a trailer rarely needs a tire that large, and running them on a trailer usually results in bad road and trail manners. I've towed a light trailer like a M416 on 33-12.50's By the time I got those tires to ride decently (defined as not breaking the eggs or foaming the beer) I was running 5 psi in them. I replaced them with 31-10.50's and can run 15 psi with far better behavior. I think it's one of those ideas that superficially sounds good, but is far less than practical when you analyze it.

Was it me, I'd look for an LT type tubeless radial of a a similar width and OD. Something like a Yokohama 742S would be my choice.

Those look like riveted wheels, so tubeless with them isn't going to be easy. I suspect that you're also going to need to buy wheels.

 

[80t0ylc]

Hi all .. picked up this m416 the other day
Trying to decide future if it's tires. Id like to do mild trails gravel, shale for overland but could see it doing some offroading where my 33s skid plates etc come into play.

Would the current model / type of tires on it be up for that ? Would they also be good on highway dry / wet ?

Is it worth it( for off-road and highway manners) to potentially try match the trailers tires to my GX470 rims / tires?
That might involve a new axle as adapters would push the tires to far out and not lete park it where I need to when not in use

It currently runs tubes and not sure as well worth it to change to tubeless .
Seems the date code on the tires is feb 1969... So a little.off. ( Only found a 02-69 imprint on the tire)
Appreciate any help as id like to take it out this summer vs making a project out of it


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I agree, you don’t need to match the vehicle tires with the trailer tires. Especially since the trailer has its own spare but, I would lose those tires ASAP. They are an accident looking for a place to happen. You can see cracks on the spare. As far as those wheels needing tubes, a reliable tire shop should be able to help you with that. My Trailer came with MT style of tires on it and they have served me well. I don’t carry a spare, but I carry a plug kit.

 

[greentruck]

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Is it worth it( for off-road and highway manners) to potentially try match the trailers tires to my GX470 rims / tires?
That might involve a new axle as adapters would push the tires to far out and not lete park it where I need to when not in use
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Yep, those tires are an accident waiting to happen.

Put me down in the tires to match the prime mover camp. In most cases, the vehicles' spare will get you home. But there are times when a second spare could be needed to get back to civilization, even if that means coming back later to retrieve the trailer.

Another benefit is you'll never need to buy a trailer tire, instead cherry-picking the best that come off the tow rig,

As for adapting to bigger tires on the current axle, it's easier to weld up wider fenders than change the axle. No need to crawl around underneath the trailer, as they will bolt right on where the old fenders come off when you unbolt them so you can use them as patterns to build the new wider fenders. Most likely once fender coverage is dealt with you'll find the suspension will accommodate 33" tires.

 

[jonheld]

Would the current model / type of tires on it be up for that ? Would they also be good on highway dry / wet ?

The correct size for a stock M416 rim is 215/85R16. I originally had bought brand new OEM military style tires/tubes, but after my first trip from Jersey to Moab I realized how freaking stupid that was. I sold them and bought Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S in the size stated. Tows like a dream from around town to across the country.