My wife and I just had our first baby a few months ago and now she is talking about having another one so the kids are close in age. Soo that means her Trailblazer SS isn't big enough so we have been looking at bigger suv's. The local dealer just got a couple of 2012's in and I went by and looked at them. Both are plat and sticker almost $64k. It was nice but I don't know if they are all that. I asked how much they would come off and they said $500 is as good as they could do. Is that the normal for them. I never have bought a new toyota only gm. There is a lot of wiggle room on the price of gm's.