New PZJ70 Owner, w/Question

[coldtaco]

I just used the one that was on my cruiser. Any stabilizer will be fine. Personally not something I’d spend big money on.

what are the valving values mean? 360/80 example

 

[FJBen]

what are the valving values mean? 360/80 example

The higher the number the firmer the shock.

The technical answer:

Damping forces of Bilstein valvings for Off-Road are measured in Newtons at a velocity of 0.52 meters/seconds (approximately 20 inches/second). The ratings shown correspond to those measurements; rebound force is the first number, followed by compression force (rebound / compression). Conventionally, the ratings are written as one tenth the damping force in Newtons.
EXAMPLE: Valve rating: 275 / 78
Rebound force is 2750 Newtons at 0.52 m/s
Compression force is 780 Newtons at 0.52 m/s
Higher numbers mean higher (firmer) damping forces. For example, 360/80 has more control (is firmer) that 275/78, while 170/60 has less control (is softer) than 275/78.
For valving recommendations please refer to the Valving Guide.

 

[coldtaco]

The higher the number the firmer the shock.

The technical answer:

Damping forces of Bilstein valvings for Off-Road are measured in Newtons at a velocity of 0.52 meters/seconds (approximately 20 inches/second). The ratings shown correspond to those measurements; rebound force is the first number, followed by compression force (rebound / compression). Conventionally, the ratings are written as one tenth the damping force in Newtons.
EXAMPLE: Valve rating: 275 / 78
Rebound force is 2750 Newtons at 0.52 m/s
Compression force is 780 Newtons at 0.52 m/s
Higher numbers mean higher (firmer) damping forces. For example, 360/80 has more control (is firmer) that 275/78, while 170/60 has less control (is softer) than 275/78.
For valving recommendations please refer to the Valving Guide.

Thanks for the explanation

 

[USAFBuckeye]

My bilsteins were cheaper than Old Man Emu when I was buying. I wish I would have went a little firmer on the rear shocks, but it still rides very well.

Ok, so these 33-230368, 33-104652 finally showed up down here. I went to install the front passenger side one and noticed the billsteins were much much longer than the old factory. The bottom mounting bush was too small as well, but I planned to trim some of the bushing to make it work. What gives?

 

[FJBen]

Ok, so these 33-230368, 33-104652 finally showed up down here. I went to install the front passenger side one and noticed the billsteins were much much longer than the old factory. The bottom mounting bush was too small as well, but I planned to trim some of the bushing to make it work. What gives?

THe bottom bushings are the wrong size for those. Sorry, I forgot to mention you can get a Dayco bushing kit that fits the bottom peg on cruisers, or you can drill them out.

Is your cruiser lifted? If not, then yeah those shocks will be too long. You will need to measure the distance between shock posts and find a shock on that bilstein picture I posted that fits in those specs.

 

[USAFBuckeye]

THe bottom bushings are the wrong size for those. Sorry, I forgot to mention you can get a Dayco bushing kit that fits the bottom peg on cruisers, or you can drill them out.

Is your cruiser lifted? If not, then yeah those shocks will be too long. You will need to measure the distance between shock posts and find a shock on that bilstein picture I posted that fits in those specs.

how about a lift kit suggestion?

them being too long is better than being too short.

 

[Rigster]

THe bottom bushings are the wrong size for those. Sorry, I forgot to mention you can get a Dayco bushing kit that fits the bottom peg on cruisers, or you can drill them out.

Is your cruiser lifted? If not, then yeah those shocks will be too long. You will need to measure the distance between shock posts and find a shock on that bilstein picture I posted that fits in those specs.

Yeah, I just reamed the bottom bushings on my rear shocks a bit with a drill when I got them, it didn't take much, then a little rubber mallet persuasion and they were in.

 

[FJBen]

how about a lift kit suggestion?

them being too long is better than being too short.

Not a lot of options for lift kits for the 70 series.

ARB/Old Man Emu
Iron Man
Dobinsons
or a custom leaf spring, Alcan etc...

Old Man Emu is kind of what everyone gets but I dont think there is anything wrong with the others.

 

[USAFBuckeye]

Not a lot of options for lift kits for the 70 series.

ARB/Old Man Emu
Iron Man
Dobinsons
or a custom leaf spring, Alcan etc...

Old Man Emu is kind of what everyone gets but I dont think there is anything wrong with the others.

What are the risks for putting on the shocks listed above without a lift? They're bottomed out, but they are long

 

[FJBen]

What are the risks for putting on the shocks listed above without a lift? They're bottomed out, but they are long

Yep bottoming out can damage the shocks and ruin them.