New 2016 or used 2015?

[kendrickdlr]

Buy the used 2015, absorb less depreciation, then get the all-new 2018/2019 when it comes out.

You're gonna want the new one, that is unless Toyota completely stops selling the LC in the U.S. or decides to completely ruin the LC formula. Both of which are highly unlikely.

 

[2016lc]

I would go 2016 for the minimal difference in price.

Really think be new version in 2018 with the complete redesign? I think will be longer.

 

[Markuson]

I would go 2016 for the minimal difference in price.

Really think be new version in 2018 with the complete redesign? I think will be longer.

If $12k is a "minimal difference" for ya, then go for it!

I'm a little jealous, though, as that's a goodly amount of time saving for $12k in mods...
I've added about $9k worth this year, and that was a slow streeeeetch.

Guess I need a better job!

 

[kendrickdlr]

I would go 2016 for the minimal difference in price.

Really think be new version in 2018 with the complete redesign? I think will be longer.

Well considering the fact that the 100-series debuted as an MY98 model and the 200-series debuted as an MY08 model, MY18 would continue that trend. But then again Toyota is a conservative company so it would not suprise me if they tried to squeeze 3 model years out of the 2016 refresh

 

[2016lc]

Sorry but I don't think that is a big enough of a discount to buy a 15 over a 16. Not about too much money etc but besides being a year older the 15 has 25 k miles and will be out of warranty sooner and also depending on the in service date you lose the maint plan.

I would expect 12k just for a leftover and about 20k for a used 2015. IMHO

 

[MooseRDS]

Maybe it would be more helpful if these questions started off with a detailed list of intended uses, 1st/2nd car, longevity hopes, off-road or not, etc.

That was covered in the opening post. Daily driver, overlanding, limited mods.......keeping it a long time

I'm ready to make the move to a 200 series. I'm mostly overlanding and daily driving. No plans to crawl but who knows. As fas as mods, it will probably go no further than sliders and roof rack. I do not plan to change suspension or bumpers.

I'll keep it for a long time.

 

[Markuson]

That was covered in the opening post. Daily driver, overlanding, limited mods.......keeping it a long time

Doh!

 

[ryanCA]

Get the 2016. Improvements are worth it.

For the average new LC owner, 12K is change they can find in their couch...

 

[MooseRDS]

Get the 2016. Improvements are worth it.

For the average new LC owner, 12K is change they can find in their couch...

Can I come stay on you couch?

I've had 3 LC's over the past 20 years. All have been pre-owned when purchased. The way I figure.....I'll keep the 200 for at least 10 years and likely longer. A 10 year old 200 will be worth at least in the mid 20's the way I take care of my vehicles. That implies 5K/yr of depreciation cost for those 10 years and less if I keep it longer. $5K/yr cost to drive a 200 really is not that bad. I've been amazed at what a great ride my 100 has been. Now my son would like to have it so it's not leaving the family. It's a good thing this decision is between a new or used 200 and not between my Hundy and a newer LC.

 

[ryanCA]

Can I come stay on you couch?

I've had 3 LC's over the past 20 years. All have been pre-owned when purchased. The way I figure.....I'll keep the 200 for at least 10 years and likely longer. A 10 year old 200 will be worth at least in the mid 20's the way I take care of my vehicles. That implies 5K/yr of depreciation cost for those 10 years and less if I keep it longer. $5K/yr cost to drive a 200 really is not that bad. I've been amazed at what a great ride my 100 has been. Now my son would like to have it so it's not leaving the family. It's a good thing this decision is between a new or used 200 and not between my Hundy and a newer LC.

Just look at the majority of the posters on this thread alone.. lots of couches..and lots of "12K don't mean a thing....." posts..

 

[Markuson]

Can I come stay on you couch?

I've had 3 LC's over the past 20 years. All have been pre-owned when purchased. The way I figure.....I'll keep the 200 for at least 10 years and likely longer. A 10 year old 200 will be worth at least in the mid 20's the way I take care of my vehicles. That implies 5K/yr of depreciation cost for those 10 years and less if I keep it longer. $5K/yr cost to drive a 200 really is not that bad. I've been amazed at what a great ride my 100 has been. Now my son would like to have it so it's not leaving the family. It's a good thing this decision is between a new or used 200 and not between my Hundy and a newer LC.

For my budget, any LC I buy will need to be at least 3-5 years old. My 2008 at over 8 years old still feels mint with only about 70k on it. Bought it last year with 48k miles. If you can afford a new 4Runner, you can afford to refresh LC's this way and never feel like yore driving a clunker. To me, a 5 year old LC over a new 4R is an easy choice.

 

[Beng1328]

I found myself in a very similar situation looking for a land cruiser today. I actually bought the 2015, it is a demo so never plated at the dealership which helps with two things. The truck I bought was a 2015 with 5000 miles on it and I save $17000 against the sticker price. I also can get new car financing versus used car financing which is only 1% but when you talking that kind of money everything helps. So my advice would be find a demo and save some money.

 

[Beng1328]

I have to say LC have come a long way in 38 years. Our 200 replaced a 2016 heep rubicon that was too small for the family and my wife loves it. This is the 2015 demo I talked about above.

 

[dukmon]

Nice.

The perspective of your photo makes the 200 looks unusually small compared to your 40.

 

[Romer]

Just look at the majority of the posters on this thread alone.. lots of couches..and lots of "12K don't mean a thing....." posts..

There are a few that would fit in that category. I would not view it as a majority. In my mind I couldn't justify $78K for a brand new 2016 when I got a 2014 for mid 50's still under warranty and like brand new. The delta covered the mods I put in, which were not cheap either.

besides, I did not like the rear TV screens

Other than my first FJ40 in the 70's, this is the first Land Cruiser I bought with less than 90K miles and I have owned quite a few. I never had an issue with buying Cruiser's with Miles. My 100 had 125K miles on it when I bought it and it will last for quite a long time for the new owner. I had wanted a new one eventually, and the stars aligned so I could get the 2014, which still feels new to me.

Not picking a fight here, just saying there are those who can easily afford a new one. Some who could (like me), but it would be a bigger financial impact and those who have to finance to afford a newer criuiser. We are welcoming to all here

 

[Beng1328]

Nice.

The perspective of your photo makes the 200 looks unusually small compared to your 40.

Yes, the 200 is in a hill and further away. My 40 is lifted and on 33 so I believe it is taller than the new 200. I will take a better picture tonight with them side by side.

 

[linuxgod]

In my mind I couldn't justify $78K for a brand new 2016 when I got a 2014 for mid 50's still under warranty and like brand new.

This.

When I was younger I used to buy vehicles new. Now that I'm older (and wiser, I think), I realize that vehicles last longer and I can save 35-50% off the cost of a new vehicle by buying one that's 3-5 years old. How much is 50-60,000 miles worth to you on a vehicle that will run 200-300k miles? For me a CPO 2013 with 50k miles saved me $25,000, and that was more than enough.

FWIW I could have scraped enough together to afford a brand new 2016 and done a 6-7 year auto loan, but with 3 kids, a dog, and lots of city driving I just knew it was going to get scuffed or dented or sticky with food anyway.

 

[dukmon]

There are a few that would fit in that category. I would not view it as a majority. In my mind I couldn't justify $78K for a brand new 2016 when I got a 2014 for mid 50's still under warranty and like brand new. The delta covered the mods I put in, which were not cheap either.

besides, I did not like the rear TV screens

Other than my first FJ40 in the 70's, this is the first Land Cruiser I bought with less than 90K miles and I have owned quite a few. I never had an issue with buying Cruiser's with Miles. My 100 had 125K miles on it when I bought it and it will last for quite a long time for the new owner. I had wanted a new one eventually, and the stars aligned so I could get the 2014, which still feels new to me.

Not picking a fight here, just saying there are those who can easily afford a new one. Some who could (like me), but it would be a bigger financial impact and those who have to finance to afford a newer criuiser. We are welcoming to all here

X2

I have owned a passel of Land Cruisers over the past 25 years. Every one used. Some neused. Some low miles. Most high. All were daily drivers. And I'd rather pay cash for what I can afford than finance anything.

 

[ryanCA]

Locally most new LC are purchased cash while new LX seemed to be leased

I can't recall seeing a "7year loan" on a new LC

The wealth and demographic of a new LC owner often parallel that of a new 911 owner

 

[Romer]

I paid cash for mine

Another factor is I wheel my cruisers and put $20K in mods in so it is the same cost point as someone who buys it and doesn't mod it

I am strong believer in don't wheel it if you are afraid to break it. The few scrapes it received after a week of wheeling, don't bother me. Brand spanking new it might, it would have my wife

I had a BMW Z4 instead of a 911. I bought it one year old with 16K miles for $25K less than a new one in 2011. I sold it 4 years later to build me dream Fj40. It fits me better, especially as a convertible

Majority of New Land Cruiser owners often do not wheel it or modify it. The group on here is a bit different