Need to replace the Birfields/Axles/ and do Knuckle Jobs (1 Viewer)

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I’m sure there are a good amount of threads on this, but I need to replace my Birfields and inner Axels and do the Knuckles while I’m in there. I was looking for something a little more beefy than OEM, and have seen good things about Longfields. Also, do I need to get new end caps? Is there a 1 stop shop that would have everything I need? I’m running 32” Cooper Discovery’s and a 3” lift. Don’t do rock crawling, but love some fun off-road. Thanks in advance.
 
What kinda car do you have?

I’m sure there are a good amount of threads on this, but I need to replace my Birfields and inner Axels and do the Knuckles while I’m in there. I was looking for something a little more beefy than OEM, and have seen good things about Longfields. Also, do I need to get new end caps? Is there a 1 stop shop that would have everything I need?


I’m running 32” Cooper Discovery’s and a 3” lift. Don’t do rock crawling, but love some fun off-road. Thanks in advance.

What is wrong with yours? Stock ones will work just fine for that use.
 
I’m sure there are a good amount of threads on this, but I need to replace my Birfields and inner Axels and do the Knuckles while I’m in there. I was looking for something a little more beefy than OEM, and have seen good things about Longfields. Also, do I need to get new end caps? Is there a 1 stop shop that would have everything I need? I’m running 32” Cooper Discovery’s and a 3” lift. Don’t do rock crawling, but love some fun off-road. Thanks in advance.


Yes, you can get get everything in one place not only the parts you need at a very competitive price, but also the LC80 know how needed to ensure nothing will be missing, including new longer end caps for Longfields, @cruiseroutfit is my place again and again

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I’m sure there are a good amount of threads on this, but I need to replace my Birfields and inner Axels and do the Knuckles while I’m in there. I was looking for something a little more beefy than OEM, and have seen good things about Longfields. Also, do I need to get new end caps? Is there a 1 stop shop that would have everything I need? I’m running 32” Cooper Discovery’s and a 3” lift. Don’t do rock crawling, but love some fun off-road. Thanks in advance.
The stock birfields are as strong as you’ll ever need if you’re not running on huge tires while rock crawling. A “stronger” birfield simply moves the failure point to some other place in your truck. In any event, the birfields are an easy job.
 
Totally agree. From what you've told us, the stock unit is plenty strong. Put that money into something more useful like sliders.
 
+1 on Cruiser Outfitters. Based on Kurt's recommendation, I did get the Nitro OEM replacements that he said are about 20% stronger. I did inner axles, new birfields and the rebuild kit with new bearings. I did have to order a new spindle after getting into it. I don't do any rock crawling but since I was going to pay for the labor, I basically had everything redone. My mechanic did say that everything was great from Cruiser Outfitters.
 
Have you already torn it down and inspected all these items?
 
+1 on Cruiser Outfitters. Based on Kurt's recommendation, I did get the Nitro OEM replacements that he said are about 20% stronger. I did inner axles, new birfields and the rebuild kit with new bearings. I did have to order a new spindle after getting into it. I don't do any rock crawling but since I was going to pay for the labor, I basically had everything redone. My mechanic did say that everything was great from Cruiser Outfitters.
Thanks, this has all been great info!! That’s exactly what I was wondering about. Since this is my daily driver, I’d hate to ruin the diff with something too strong.
 
Have you stopped up the molly grease in the knuckles? Should be 2/3-3/4 full.
Not yet, I’ve had the truck for two years, and it was a search and rescue vehicle before I got it, so I’m sure there’s a lot to do in the knuckles, which is why I think it could be good to do the whole job. They definitely look dry from the outside.
 
You really should try and do this work yourself. It's not hard, just messy, and you sure will be happy you've gone in there before if you ever have to (when you have to) do a trail repair. Again, JMHO.
 
You really should try and do this work yourself. It's not hard, just messy, and you sure will be happy you've gone in there before if you ever have to (when you have to) do a trail repair. Again, JMHO.


He's right.

@Kevin Reed Do this work yourself. That's the only way for you to earn our respect. You must dive in and prove your worth.

Then, we can no longer flame you as we're about to do....just because. Just wait until the rest of them get here.....then you'll know what I mean.
 
Not yet, I’ve had the truck for two years, and it was a search and rescue vehicle before I got it, so I’m sure there’s a lot to do in the knuckles, which is why I think it could be good to do the whole job. They definitely look dry from the outside.
If really dry, pump a full tube into the service port with the square plug on top of the knuckle housing, and top off the gear oil in the differential. For < $10 you can find out what hether you REALLY need a knuckle service now or later.
 
@Kevin Reed -

I’d slow your money roll & read up before going Longs. IMO you don’t need them & really you might try flopping the sides before going whole hog on new street birfs.

Read up on Joey’s / @NLXTACY ’s tool for using more of the mating surface for your inner shaft with OE seals. (If you’re new to driving seals, I’d just buy his)

If you’re bound & determined, then yeah - you can burn big $$$$ on Longs & new inner shafts, but why not see what a well researched guy can do with & use some of that saved $$$ for extra Joey crap you’ll **gotta have** when you see it.

The flipside to Longs is they wear out faster than street birfs, and most of us who are just still on 315’s (34.5”) are street birfs - you’ll strip a driveplate before a good/greased birf pops under most situations.

Up to you - I had to buy a f-ton of new parts when I ate a axle shell & shattered some diff components, I can say Cruiserdan’s dogs were well fed & he was deep in the Keystones.

And I just had **that much less** $$$ to burn on mods & random cool crap.
 
Unless Bobby comes back from the dead I’m never touching Trail Fail’s version of his work.

FWIW, I’ve got nearing 400k on 35s and have only ventured outside of OEM every once in awhile and I keep going back to OEM.

Do the work yourself, it’s a right of passage and the best way to understand your truck.
 
I’ll definitely be doing the work myself. After reading a lot of these entries, I’m looking at Nitro’s more stock version. I don’t think the Chromoly version is for me since our 80 is a daily driver, and sometimes long voyages. The only reason I would get inner Axels also, is that this is our one vehicle at the moment, and I need to get everything possible in case I open it up and there is an unforeseen problem that needs to be replaced. I live in a small mountain town and parts are hard to come by. Thanks for all the info, this is definitely the place to get it.
 
... is that this is our one vehicle at the moment, and I need to get everything possible in case I open it up and there is an unforeseen problem that needs to be replaced. I live in a small mountain town and parts are hard to come by. ...

If you call Cruiser Outfitters and explain your need, they will send the right stuff.
 

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