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MRego said:
How was the steering feel with the Grenadier? Mostly what I hear is people annoyed with the constant steering fight in highway driving and the need to counter steer for yourself when going on turns. Also not having adaptive ACC or lane centering adds up to that complaint.

In my not-so-proud past, I had a Defender for about 2 years, before the warranty expired. Although not a BOF, I got to admit it had a very solid and well built feel to it. Similar to what I feel in the OT, but way less plush. Mine was a 2020, so a first-year model and still had several kinks that had to be fixed by the dealer. Let's just say I got to know my SA's name by heart. I can only assume they improved in the past 6 years. Still, it was a Land Rover and when the warranty was about to expire, I chickened out since the extended warranty was eye-gouging and I am not brave enough to own an LR product without a warranty.
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Steering feel took a second to get used to, did not return to center passively. But I also owned a 37 inch tired, lifted 2019 Jeep Rubicon, which drove quite nicely, and the Grenadier was even better.

I think the people going from a Range Rover or a Mercedes to a Grenadier are where the steering complaints come from. I would be driving a grenadier right now if it wasn't for the numerous glitches and challenges the first few year models have had (air conditioning snafus, NATO plug corrosion, electronics and infotainment annoyances). Hope to get one in the future.
 
may be its not the right thread but can someone confirm LX700h skid plates for engine and transmission are metal. Some reviews for LX700h on YouTube using press cars show plastic skid plates for transmission and transfer case.

thanks.
 
ghazzali said:
may be its not the right thread but can someone confirm LX700h skid plates for engine and transmission are metal. Some reviews for LX700h on YouTube using press cars show plastic skid plates for transmission and transfer case.

thanks.
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Engine Skid is 1/4" AL plate. Transmission belly pan is a Fiber reinforced plastic (same as the 200 series). 4LO actuator on the transfercase has a steel plate and hoop on it (like the 200).
 
17k mile update:
Pros:
-boring. Does everything so well, there's no drama. I sometimes look longingly at a grenadier, and wish for a more tumultuous relationship. Yes, this is a pro :)
-power. Nothing except a cayenne GTS or above matches the cascade of get up and go that the Lx700OT has. Passing power on the highway is effortless. Towing just works.
-comfort: day long road trips just melt away. The massaging seat is a very nice feature about every 2 hours to knead the knots out of one's bum and back.
-Offroad capability: 90% as capable as my 37 inch tires Jeep rubicon. Only thing it doesn't do as well is climb over big objects. Frankly has better traction in most other scenarios, and better high speed Offroad driving.

Cons:
-transmission: waaaaay better than the lx600, but still has the occasional pauses and clunks with anything like a quick change in accelerator depression. Passing at from 65-75 will give a tranny clunk about 10-20% of the time. And in the early morning when it's cold and I'm speeding up, particularly uphill, it'll struggle a little figure out which gear to be in. Once it warms up there's no trouble. Seems Toyota just hasn't quite figured out how to make the three systems (ICE, turbo, electric) talk perfectly together at the level of the power delivery. 98% of the time it's fine.
-rear third row. It is nice to have the extra seat capacity for kids and my kid's friends, but it takes up at least as much room as the side fold seats from the lx570/lc200, and they are not easily removable. Going to let the kids get just a bit older, then out they go for a hard floor or maybe some drawers.
-tires: at 17k miles they have another 5k of tread left but have quite the roar/whine at highway speeds. Going to switch to some E rated bfgko3's for the next set, and move up a size. That negative aside, they have done surprisingly well in snow, ice, mud, rocks, loose gravel, and ride well except for the recent addition of the highway whine.
-Cost: GX550 ($75k) gets you 80% of the vehicle for 62.5% of the cost ($120k). I like the Lx much more, but the gain is not linear. You're paying an extra $40k for admittedly much nicer leather, better fit and finish, and a considerably quieter and more comfortable ride, as well as three lockers and an adjustable suspension that is a seriously nice feature. But one could buy a very nice vehicle for one's daughter, rent a beach/mountain/lake house for a couple months, etc. for those marginal gains.
 
Has your milage improved? Mine is now hitting 3500 miles and I ***think*** the milage is getting better.
 
snowman69 said:
Has your milage improved? Mine is now hitting 3500 miles and I ***think*** the milage is getting better.
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I can nurse it to 22mpg with 60mph and eco. But I hate driving slow and careful. I typically get 19-20 on a highway trip, 17-18 in town.
 
Docyota said:
17k mile update:
Pros:
-boring. Does everything so well, there's no drama. I sometimes look longingly at a grenadier, and wish for a more tumultuous relationship. Yes, this is a pro :)
-power. Nothing except a cayenne GTS or above matches the cascade of get up and go that the Lx700OT has. Passing power on the highway is effortless. Towing just works.
-comfort: day long road trips just melt away. The massaging seat is a very nice feature about every 2 hours to knead the knots out of one's bum and back.
-Offroad capability: 90% as capable as my 37 inch tires Jeep rubicon. Only thing it doesn't do as well is climb over big objects. Frankly has better traction in most other scenarios, and better high speed Offroad driving.

Cons:
-transmission: waaaaay better than the lx600, but still has the occasional pauses and clunks with anything like a quick change in accelerator depression. Passing at from 65-75 will give a tranny clunk about 10-20% of the time. And in the early morning when it's cold and I'm speeding up, particularly uphill, it'll struggle a little figure out which gear to be in. Once it warms up there's no trouble. Seems Toyota just hasn't quite figured out how to make the three systems (ICE, turbo, electric) talk perfectly together at the level of the power delivery. 98% of the time it's fine.
-rear third row. It is nice to have the extra seat capacity for kids and my kid's friends, but it takes up at least as much room as the side fold seats from the lx570/lc200, and they are not easily removable. Going to let the kids get just a bit older, then out they go for a hard floor or maybe some drawers.
-tires: at 17k miles they have another 5k of tread left but have quite the roar/whine at highway speeds. Going to switch to some E rated bfgko3's for the next set, and move up a size. That negative aside, they have done surprisingly well in snow, ice, mud, rocks, loose gravel, and ride well except for the recent addition of the highway whine.
-Cost: GX550 ($75k) gets you 80% of the vehicle for 62.5% of the cost ($120k). I like the Lx much more, but the gain is not linear. You're paying an extra $40k for admittedly much nicer leather, better fit and finish, and a considerably quieter and more comfortable ride, as well as three lockers and an adjustable suspension that is a seriously nice feature. But one could buy a very nice vehicle for one's daughter, rent a beach/mountain/lake house for a couple months, etc. for those marginal gains.
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Agreed, the GX is a much better value proposition. But for me it lacked some X-factor in feel for me. The 300 gives me that same feeling I get when I drive my 100 and 200.

I'll die on this hill: the 300 looks like the successor to the 100 in terms of styling and body lines vs the rounded nature of the 200. This is a good thing.
 
Found this somewhere. And yes, agreed.
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snowman69 said:
Has your milage improved? Mine is now hitting 3500 miles and I ***think*** the milage is getting better.
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I am at 5700miles and the milage improved just a bit. My drive is mostly limited to three times a day during the week and is a mix of (bad) highway traffic and streets speckled with lights. I am getting 16.9mpg in the computer, but calculating at the pump, I am at 17.5mpg. Not stellar, but still better than my 200, which with the same driving conditions, I would be lucky to get 13mpgs at the pump. I have an upcoming road trip during easter and am confident I will be able to get 19/20mpgs if I am careful with the speed, but not so much as driving like a grandma - which would probably give me 22mpgs or so.
 
Docyota said:
56 mile exploration trip. Lx700h OT did the job in style. Completely overkill, but it is quite a delightful exploration vehicle for my family.

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New tires look good and function well.
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Kids all comfy in the rear seat.

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Like father, like son!
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Found a friend!
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Very cool. Talk to us about those bad boys KO3s. How did the perform? No rubbing at all? Did you feel taller? Was it a big improvement when compared to the toyos?
 
Ngl, those K03s with OEM wheels still looks OEMish, which is also what I'm going for.
 
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