My Perspective: 200 Series LX vs LC, As an Owner of Both (1 Viewer)

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After a number of folks asked, I wanted to share my thoughts on the differences between an 2014 LX and a 2020 Cruiser. Before I dive into the details, I have grown up in and around Land Cruisers. My folks started my addiction when they purchased a 1999 and I fell in love with Cruisers. That was replaced with a 2004 which they still own (Now at 240k). My experience with the 2UZ platform grew with the purchase of my 2007 4Runner V8 (Now at 200k).

I made the 200 series jump into a 2014 LX for my wife and most recently, I purchased a 2020 Land Cruiser. My folks just bought a 2020 LX - so to say we are loyal Cruiser customers would be an understatement. I wanted to get into another 200 before it was watered down, or sold with a forced induction V6.

All told, we have a combined 750,000 miles in Cruisers and not once have we been left stranded, anywhere. My 4Runner has been all over the country (35+ states) - including up the Alcan and around Alaska. I had the pleasure of driving the LX down the Alcan to the L48 in the dead of winter, at -36F. The trucks were purchased new with the exception of the LX and have meticulous maintenance records.

Suffice to say, my time in the drivers seat and experience across multiple platforms and generations could help those still undecided.

Interior:

I personally think the 2013-2015 LX’s had the best interior of the 200 series. There was enough of the new tech (PCS) that still utilized the tried and true touch screen that I think it was nearly perfect. The 2016+ Lexus infotainment system is an abomination and overall interior styling is over the top in my opinion. The 2020 Cruiser interior is symmetrical, utilitarian, and a great place to be. My one complaint with the Cruiser is the depth of the front seats. The seat in the LX is extremely comfortable since it has thigh extenders and significantly more bolstering.

The interior of the LX is quieter than the LC - but not by much. Wind noise is extremely well managed in both all they way up to 100MPH. The increased level of sound deadening in the LX is noticeable with a slightly lower road/ambient noise level while cruising. You can have a normal conversation in both of them at highway speeds.

The ML stereo in the LX sounds better than the JBL - no surprise there; however, the JBL is no slouch and sounds great with high quality sources.

Toyota and Lexus both have fantastic quality materials inside - even if there is more plastic inside the Cruiser. Both the Cruiser and LX interior look like new after a proper cleaning and detailing.

Exterior:

The 2020 LC styling is closer to that of the 2014 LX than the 16+ LX’s. The Xenon headlights on the LX are equivalent in brightness and reach to the LED’s on the Cruiser. I do appreciate the AFS function on the LX; however, the LC does have the auto-leveling feature.

Handling/Ride:

AHC is a great system, extremely durable, capable, and reliable as proven on here. However, I feel the ride in the LX is too muted for me. I drove a 2020 LX and 2020 Cruiser back to back. The Cruiser handles better due to decreased body roll associated with KDSS, has a firmer more “connected” feeling to the road, and does not wander on the highway like the LX did. The combination of the 21” wheels and sport tires on the LX caused it to dance around the lane at highway speeds. The 2014 exhibits some of those characteristics with the 20” wheels on Michelin tires. In the winter, on the LX, I run 20” Tundra wheels with Nokian Hakka 9 studded tires and there is no wandering which leads me to believe it is a tire issue.

While subjective, I much prefer the handling and ride of the Cruiser than the LX. There is less body roll and less wandering in the Cruiser - that is a fact, even when the LX is in Sport mode. You can drive the Cruiser far more spirited around corners than the LX.

I think the throttle mapping and 6 speed in the LX is configured very well. The truck holds gears when decelerating and coasting around corners. It actually surprises me on a lot of occasions when merging onto the highway and cruising around town that the truck is in the right gear and does not require a downshift. This is better behavior than the 5 speed in the 100 series/4Runner and the 8 speed in the Cruiser which I am still getting accustomed to.

As a prospective buyer considering both, I think it’s important to drive the trucks back to back - which I know can be difficult. They ride very differently, and I personally like the way the Cruiser drives more than the LX. The Cruiser is also far more understated, both with its styling and the fact that it doesn’t have the stigma associated with the Lexus badge.

I hope this information is helpful - please let me know if you have any specific questions.....

At the end of the day - you can’t go wrong in a 200.

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Great write up! My only question is in relation to the seat depth, and might be considered personal. How tall are you?
 
The only thing I don't love about my 13 LX (or any 570 I've had) is the body roll! It drives me crazy, and sometimes makes me want to sell it. You're right, even in sport mode it is present. Not sure what else can be done. I downsized wheel size and got beefier KO2's and it was a little better but not by much. That also killed my MPG. Back on 20's and considering a gen 1 ford raptor. Yes, I know Ford quality is nowhere near LC build quality, but the gen 1 raptors routinely see 300K on original trans/motor. Might regret it but I really hate the body roll.
 
Great write up! My only question is in relation to the seat depth, and might be considered personal. How tall are you?

6-1, 215# with a 34” inseam (long legs)

The seats are REALLY disappointing. So much so that I am looking at thigh extensions on Amazon for longer trips. I am actually going to see if the LX seats will bolt in. If they work and its a direct bolt up might be worth getting a pair from a salvage yard.....
 
The only thing I don't love about my 13 LX (or any 570 I've had) is the body roll! It drives me crazy, and sometimes makes me want to sell it. You're right, even in sport mode it is present. Not sure what else can be done. I downsized wheel size and got beefier KO2's and it was a little better but not by much. That also killed my MPG. Back on 20's and considering a gen 1 ford raptor. Yes, I know Ford quality is nowhere near LC build quality, but the gen 1 raptors routinely see 300K on original trans/motor. Might regret it but I really hate the body roll.

Yeah the body roll is pretty bad. The Cruiser drives like a go-cart in comparison. Interested to hear how those who have pulled AHC and gone to a traditional coilover setup feel about it.

The difference is so noticeable I was sold on the Cruiser after the first left hand turn at a stoplight on the test drive.
 
I did the same thing when purchasing my LC. I wanted the LX but didn't like the way it drove or the ride. I drove 8 LXs hoping it was something else then driving the LC to the Lexus dealer to drive them back to back to make sure I wasn't imagining anything. I may be one of the few who like KDSS alot. Your review is spot on. My favorie interior is 08-11 LC although I liked the LX interior accents and glossier white exterior paint.
 
I did the same thing when purchasing my LC. I wanted the LX but didn't like the way it drove or the ride. I drove 8 LXs hoping it was something else then driving the LC to the Lexus dealer to drive them back to back to make sure I wasn't imagining anything. I may be one of the few who like KDSS alot. Your review is spot on. My favorie interior is 08-11 LC although I liked the LX interior accents and glossier white exterior paint.

I do like those early 200 LC interiors a lot too. If a 2008-2011 had the updated safety features and LED headlights, it would be the perfect cruiser......
 
I may be one of the few who like KDSS alot.

I don't think that is a very exclusive club.. IMO KDSS is a major selling point for the Landcruiser.
 
I want/ need the extra suspension height. So for me, an apples to apples comparison would be a stock LX or a LC with a lift. An LC with 2-3” of lift will have more body roll than the LX.

I currently own a built 2008 4Runner V8 with about 3” of lift. I just bought an LX570. The LX has waaaay less body roll than the 4R. I love the LC but I knew once I lifted it 3” the body roll would be worse than the LX. The LX has the lift when you need it. I know LX isn’t as much a pure off-roader but it is a trade I wanted for our family adventure vehicle.

I just joined the group so excuse my lack of history.
 
Good contrast. That's some serious miles with cruisers!

It may be worth noting that some of the perceptions can come from weight alone. LXs are upwards of 300lbs+ heavier, with some specs putting this difference in the 400-500lb range. Yet that offers an opportunity for LCs to be fitted with more armor and retain an edge in weight.
 
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Great write up! Interesting you mention the seats. I'm also a taller guy at 6'1/215 and the LC seats were a big reason (Main reason was LC supply) I ended up with an LX over LC. It's one of those things you don't really appreciate until you live with it for a while. Moving to 17" wheels was another big improvement for the LX. Completely changed the driving characteristics. I'm not an aggressive driver, so I never paid much attention to the body roll on these heavy beasts. I'm also the guy who will drop it into "comfort" mode on long highway trips and enjoy the floaty ride. ...Pinky's up and cooler full of soda water. :)
 
2016 LC: 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser First Test Review

2016 LX: 2016 Lexus LX 570 First Test Review


Pay attention to MT Figure Eight numbers.

(Lower time is better)

Lexus LX: 28.2 sec @ 0.61g.

Toyota LC: 27.8 sec @ 0.61g.

MT retested LX570...this time 2018 model vs. other vehicles: Lexus LX vs. Jeep Wrangler vs. Mercedes-Benz G-Class vs. Land Rover Discovery)

MT 8 time on this review = 28.3 sec @ 0.59g

In this test, the LX570 curb weight was 6009 lbs. (2016 LC in MT test above weighed 5874 lbs.)


For fun, here are the other SUVs' MT 8 numbers for reference:

2019 MB G550 = 30.7 sec @ 0.53g

2018 Lincoln Navigator = 27.8 @ 0.64

2018 Ford Expedition FX4 = 27.6 @ 0.62

2015 Cadillac Escalade ESV = 27.9 @ 0.63

2019 GMC Yukon 4WD SLT = 27.3 @ 0.64

2019 Land Rover Range Rover SVAutobiography = 26.1 @ 0.70

2020 Land Rover Range Rover Evoque P250 = 28.5 @ 0.62

2018 Land Rover Discovery HSE = 29.2 @ 0.57

2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited = 29.9 @ 0.56

2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon = 29.4 @ 0.56

2017 Lexus GX460 Luxury (adaptive suspension) = 28.6 @ 0.60

2017 Toyota 4runner TRD Pro = 28.9 @ 0.57

2017 Toyota Sequoia Platinum 4wd = 29.1 @ 0.57

2016 Tesla Model X P90D = 25.1 @ 0.78
 
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I've had an 08 LX, 13 LC, 14 LC, and 16 LC, and I tend to agree with you. One thing that drastically improved the ride and handling quality in our LX was adding 275/65/20 E rated KO2s which really transformed the vehicle. I did not care for the way it rode whatsoever with the stock tires, but with the KO2s it was significantly better in every way. I think a lot of people discount the LX after a test drive, but they would be better served to try one with E rated tires. Several members here drove mine with no mods other than tires and agreed it was far more enjoyable and handled better than with stock tires FWIW. I think the LX is definitely the value play in the 200 market.
 
I do like those early 200 LC interiors a lot too. If a 2008-2011 had the updated safety features and LED headlights, it would be the perfect cruiser......

I added aftermarket LED lights which I love, soo ridicously bright it puts s classes to shame. What updated safety features are you referring to? I love the new toyota grills 2018+, thats probably the only feature I wish I had.
 
I added aftermarket LED lights which I love, soo ridicously bright it puts s classes to shame. What updated safety features are you referring to? I love the new toyota grills 2018+, thats probably the only feature I wish I had.

Lane departure warning, blind spot monitoring, pre-collision system.
 
I've had an 08 LX, 13 LC, 14 LC, and 16 LC, and I tend to agree with you. One thing that drastically improved the ride and handling quality in our LX was adding 275/65/20 E rated KO2s which really transformed the vehicle. I did not care for the way it rode whatsoever with the stock tires, but with the KO2s it was significantly better in every way. I think a lot of people discount the LX after a test drive, but they would be better served to try one with E rated tires. Several members here drove mine with no mods other than tires and agreed it was far more enjoyable and handled better than with stock tires FWIW. I think the LX is definitely the value play in the 200 market.

Tires may help it ride better but it won’t help the body roll.
 
Tires may help it ride better but it won’t help the body roll.

I guess it depends on how you define body roll. Tires and wheels are part of the suspension which affects the handling dynamics of the vehicle dramatically, so changing the tire to a stiffer or softer sidewall or increasing or decreasing the diameter of the wheel will have an effect on the whole system. For example a 33" tire riding on a 15" wheel is going to feel a lot squishier and exhibit more roll than a 33" tire on a 20" wheel, all else held constant. The standard OEM tires on the LX are too soft IMO, so going to an E rated or stiffer sidewall tire will make the vehicle handle "better" and reduce roll because there is less give or squish in the tire which is part of the overall suspension.
 
I love comparing body roll and handling in 6,000# trucks. Next topic: Relative airworthiness of the Boston Whaler Outrage and Dauntless models.
 

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