More PHH problems

[MDarius]

Hey! I tacked on to the end of the other PHH thread, but I really need help. I have been working on this thing for 6 hours now and I'm about ready...do something really bad...I can't even think. I have to get the clamp closes to the engine off, and the ears are towards the firewall. I've tried hooking it, prying it, twisting it, I'm not having any success. I started taking off the intake plenum to get at from above and the dang thing is hooked on something in the back, I don't know what. So now I'm stuck on the PHH AND the Plenum, and I just about have nothing left to give. Can anybody out there help me?

 

[MDarius]

I'm going to by a dremel.

 

[lovetoski]

I had the same problem, and used a dremel. Used a cone shaped grinding bit. Work carefully, as it likes to jump off the clamp and nick anything else close by...

 

[Brentbba]

Pay for the flexible extension - made the job easier IMHO. Good luck!

 

[lovetoski]

Pay for the flexible extension - made the job easier IMHO. Good luck!

Forgot to mention - I used the flexible extension also!

 

[hatfieldcb]

I had some long nosed hose pliers that saved me. I've still got to tighten my clamps again. I used the red-lined silicon hose. It's fine in the warmer weather, but when it gets cold it leaks. PITA. My old hose prolly could have gone at least 50k-75k miles more. I wish i'd never touched it.

 

[alia176]

Lucy,

I sincerely feel your pain since I just did this. In my frustration, I managed to throw a few things across the driveway in anger!! Use the dremmel to cut as much as possible on the hose and the clamp. Then, using a hook tool of some kind, gently pull the clamp off the nipple. Since the clamp is cut or mostly cut, it'll give a lot more and *should* slide off the nipple. I used a diamond blade cutting tool from Hell Depot. These things aren't cheap at $15 but they work very well.

Hopefully this works.

Ali

 

[4WD Toyota Owner Magazine]

FWIW:

http://www.4wdtoyotaowner.com/PHH.html

 

[Rich]

...I used the red-lined silicon hose. It's fine in the warmer weather, but when it gets cold it leaks. PITA....

Others have shared similar experience with the silicone hoses tending to leak and the need to get the clamps good an tight to prevent. Unlike the silcone hose, the non silicone hoses bond to the metal and are much more leak resistent. I think heavy duty heater hose from Gates (Green Stripe) or Goodyear (Hi-Miler) makes for a much better choice than silicone in this application. Costs less and works better.

 

[DuManchu]

I used Gates green-stripe in my application.

I would have used silicone if I hadn't already had the green stripe kit, but only with the constant tension lined clamps 1fzfephh.com offers. It stops the cold leaks from what I understand.

 

[tarbe]

IMO, the PHH should always be done in conjuction with a starter re-build. Getting that starter out of the way really helps the access issue. And the starter contacts/plunger seem to be on roughly the same life cycle as the PHH.

 

[MDarius]

you guys are awesome. I did remove the starter and the transmission dipstick tube. I covered the open end with tape to prevent anything from falling in. I gave up on Saturday, took today off for sanity, and I'll hit it again on Monday after work. What size hose is this? Is it 3/4, do I just ask for "heater hose"? I'll get the better quality as recommended by Rich. I live in Northern Utah...last winter it was under twenty for a couply weeks straight, can't afford cold weather problems.

 

[photogod]

you guys are awesome. I live in Northern Utah...last winter it was under twenty for a couply weeks straight, can't afford cold weather problems.

Pussy! Try -30 for a month and 1/2, then get back to me about cold! We take the kids to ski in Northern MN and they wait till it gets to -15 before they hit the hill. I sit in the house and watch TV, hit the sauna and roll in the snow and try to find my testies!

(Just kidding about the pussy thing.)

 

[MDarius]

It's all good. The coldest I ever had it was when an Alaskan cold front hit British Columbia when I was there. At least minus twenty for about a month, and no snow removal. The Swedes say, "There is no bad weather, only bad gear." I'm geared for about 20 degrees, and happy with that.

 

[medtro]

What size hose is this? Is it 3/4, do I just ask for "heater hose"?

It is 5/8".

 

[photogod]

I would love to live where you live. I love the South West!

 

[Kasprzak]

Hey LUCY! I am about to undertake the phh and the starter on my LX soon. I would be happy to swing by tomorrow night as I am in Roy as well. Give me a holler if you need someone to lend a hand. Always good to meet another cruiserhead especially one in your own city.

Dennis 801-347-6513

 

[Dusty]

once you get that clamp off throw the whole phh tube assembly away and run one long piece of hhose so next time you change it it will only take 15 min. I have been running one long piece of hhose for a while now.

And you dont need to remove the starter-just the tranny tube.

 

[Brentbba]

Order the PHH from our board advertiser! Good quality and great, easy to work with clamps!

 

[MDarius]

One note by way of suggestion, I have ramps to drive up on when doing repairs. I set the drivers side ramp up on rail road ties and the passenger side is just on the ramp. This gave me a set up where the ds was higher, and the space between the tire and wheel well was increased significantly, giving more working room. As tough as this has been, I think it helped. Also it's more stable then jack stands.