Methods of gaining Track Width (1 Viewer)

[bustanutley]

You have to use the IFS hubs to have the new rotors line up with the caliper. I have tundra brakes on my front axle and its a nice upgrade you can read more about it here:

http://frontrangeoffroadfab.com/nfo...d=136&osCsid=a7b0aef75a383c2ce05e702437e6ac4c

 

[The Dude]

That makes sense. And that's cheaper then the sky widening kit with the spacer for the LC brakes.

Now is the tundra brakes that much bigger then the 4 runner upgrade? my tundra still stops like $hit...

 

[bustanutley]

I'm pretty confident you can bolt on just about any brake from any toyota ifs front. I do know that the 4runner guys use the older smaller tundra calipers on their trucks as an upgrade. I had all the parts except the adapters sitting on the shelve from upgrading my tundra with 03up calipers and my old cruiser calipers had a stuck piston, so on the old tundra brakes went. Stops better now. Tundra seems to stop the same but at least it isn't warping s*** anymore. I need to put yota pads on that thing to make it stop better.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I think I miss interpreted what you wrote. I thought your last post was saying ifs hubs + a spacer for 3" per side..

1.5" spacer of the hubs is a mellow enough change, I wouldn't worry about it. I have been using this situation for a long time. I would still rather have a wider axle with deeper wheels however.

Marlin's big knuckle bearing kit is a much better solution for the trunions.

I did not articulate what I was thinking, I apologize.

IFS hubs + 3" additional track width. Also allows me to run the larger brakes. I was also planning on running a 3" axle spacer, not wheel spacer. This will get me up to 64" WMS, with the bigger brakes. See here:

I got a smoking deal on the TG trunion eliminators, but let's not divert our conversation that way.

I agree with Mr Nutley,

The IFS alone only gives you a WMS of 61.5" and the 80 series rear is 63" so he will need to add spacers as well. My question is why do you need the IFS hub for the tundra brake upgrade? I know nothing of the swap but running a 3" spacer will mover your rim far enough away it won't be an issue???

I wouldn't wast my time with the IFS if you are running a spacer anyways. There's no difference in running an IFS hub + 1.5" spacer vs running a 3" spacer.

I guess I should take a caliper off the tundra and see if it fits on my non IFS hub and my IFS hub rig?? Is the offset to the disk an issue?

As for the Tundra calipers, I am not sure if they will bolt onto the factory knuckle or not. I do know that the rotor hat on the tundra rotors is deeper, which I suspect would cause interference issues with the knuckle. The tundra rotors are also significantly wider in diameter.

I'd like to get a set in my hands to try out though!

 

[mookie]

not sure what the big deal is about ugrading front brakes, the ifs calipers stop mine freaking awesome

i have the TG trunion eliminators and they are wearing down on the bottoms and yes i do grease them all the time. i had to remove a shim on the bottom caps recently to reduce slop....i would go with the marlin crawler bigger bearings

 

[The Dude]

I like those weld on spacers. And with IFS hubs and the tundra brakes, that's going to be a nice set up.

The upgrade is due to weight. 40 series truck can be WAY lighter then the 60s. Easily by a couple thousand pounds. It makes a huge difference. Add to that 37'+ tires and it just makes it even worse. The bigger the brakes, the better IMO.

 

[mookie]

Gotcha, i missed that it was going under a 60

 

[GLTHFJ60]

not sure what the big deal is about ugrading front brakes, the ifs calipers stop mine freaking awesome

i have the TG trunion eliminators and they are wearing down on the bottoms and yes i do grease them all the time. i had to remove a shim on the bottom caps recently to reduce slop....i would go with the marlin crawler bigger bearings

As The Dude said, 60s tend to be heavy beasts after armor and all that. The 4BT and NV4500 will add some weight to the truck as well. In addition, if you want to tow any respectable amount of weight, brakes are the limiting factor.

I like those weld on spacers. And with IFS hubs and the tundra brakes, that's going to be a nice set up.

The upgrade is due to weight. 40 series truck can be WAY lighter then the 60s. Easily by a couple thousand pounds. It makes a huge difference. Add to that 37'+ tires and it just makes it even worse. The bigger the brakes, the better IMO.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Bigger brakes = better.

Gotcha, i missed that it was going under a 60

Yup, going into Moonshine in my sig.


Thanks again for the advice guys!

 

[SNLC]

I am curious as to why you simply didn't consider a custom housing, say a RuffStuff?

 

[Tapage]

I run Marlins big trunion bearings and replace them half as often as the OEM.

got a link ... I was looking in Marlins site but couldn't find 'em ..

 

[bustanutley]

http://www.marlincrawler.com/steering/high-steer/25mm-steering-pin-upgrade-kit

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I am curious as to why you simply didn't consider a custom housing, say a RuffStuff?

Ruffstuff housing costs big $$. I got my FJ60 axle housing for $50, another $50 in for the spacers, another $100 in for the IFS hubs.

That kind of money is better spent on components for my drivetrain conversion.

 

[The Dude]

The Marlin bearings are a must IMO. The bottom cap and top spud need to be upgraded at the same time. Never had an issue since the change to those with 4x4 labs 6 stud arms.

I am really digging the tundra brake upgrade. I would need new rims but it might be the perfect excuse to go to a 20" with a set of 39.5 iroks!

 

[Hulsty]

My experience, I am running IFS hubs in my BJ74, have been for around three years or so, about 80,000km on the setup. No problems with wheel or swivel hub bearings running 35''s. Running stock discs but with HZJ75 calipers and a 80 series dual diaphragm booster, brakes are good can lock them up on tar no worries.