Matching Spare Wheel for Heritage Edition

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greynolds said:
I supposed the main consideration here is whether doing a 5 tire rotation really makes sense or not. If whichever tire is currently the spare is going to get damaged, then it probably makes sense to just stick with a 4 tire rotation, keep the "regular" spare wheel, and only use the spare if a flat occurs. I certainly don't want to damage 5 BBS wheels over time as they get rotated to the spare location. I've seen plenty of discussion of doing 5 tire rotations here on mud, but I think this is the first time I've seen any mention of the spare wheel getting damaged by the bumpers. That's one of the nice things about having the spare stored inside the vehicle, on the rear door (like on a Wrangler or G-wagon), or on a swing away bumper mount.
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Another way to look at potential rim damage in a 5 tire rotation is that any one tire will only spend 1/5th of its time in the spare location, so there is less time to cause damage, and 5x more opportunities to remove dirt and abrasive materials.

Also, fwiw, as a single data point, my 60k spare rim looked like new when I removed it to put a different tire/rim on the 200. The tire had some indentations, but the rim condition was pristine.
 
My friend’s LX wheels. The spots line up with the rubber bumpers.

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One more small point.. I’ve advocated 5-tire rotations on this board a bunch. But the only reasonably priced 5th rock warrior I was able to find was too cosmetically damaged to keep in the rotation, so I’ve been doing 4-tire. And it is working out fine.
 
WCDAVE said:
I wouldn't bother with a center cap for your spare - even mounted on a rear swing out. The center hole is a convenient place to grab the wheel when moving/hoisting it and as far as I can tell, the center caps are not prone to falling out or otherwise requiring a spare.
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Also, You also definitely can’t mount the center cap if the wheel is in the standard spare location, that space is used for the hanger.
 
My lx spare looks like that as well. I suspect it’s possible that 17-18” wheels dont hit those bumpers and they actually rest up against the tire. The marks are pretty far out.
 
lx200inAR said:
My lx spare looks like that as well. I suspect it’s possible that 17-18” wheels dont hit those bumpers and they actually rest up against the tire. The marks are pretty far out.
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18s definitely hit. My stock 2013 cruiser spare had marks as well, though not as bad.

I actually think it has more to do with sidewall bulge. The more the sidewall sticks out the more that will hit the bracket vs the rim hitting the bumpers. The 20s on an LX have less sidewall, less bulge, more bumper contact, more bumper wear.
 
Big Timber said:
That rubbing looks like the spare wasn't snug against the bump stops.
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It was when we dropped it.

As mentioned mine wasn’t as bad but it had marks, and it was quite tight under the truck. Hadn’t been dropped ever based on the mold marks and date code on the tire.

My point isn’t that a BBS wheel will necessarily get this bad, just that our trucks don’t use the best system for protecting the wheel from damage.
 
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bloc said:
I’m betting the majority of these never have the spare tire dropped unless it’s a flat or to replace it when hopelessly dry rotted. Toyota is well aware of that, and gave most of the people that bought a HE what they wanted while not spending another few hundred dollars per unit. Can’t really blame them.
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That is if they can drop the spare. The mechanism for raising the tire is notorious for rusting unless one does some regular maintenance. So even if you are only doing a four tire rotation, drop the spare, inspect it, check the air pressure, and, grease that sucker up.
 
I recently purchased a spare BBS wheel from my local dealership.

I was able to secure the price for the non BBS wheels since they initially ordered the wrong part # by mistake, after i had kindly mentioned to them to double check if we were ordering the right one. No harm no foul. i believe MSRP is just below $700.

I can also confirm it does not come with the center cap, and like someone mentioned if you place it in the spare tire position under the vehicle the center cap will not be used.

i have it in storage for now since im not sure i can fit it with 285/65/r18 in the spare tire position under the vehicle. Most likely will hang on to it until there is a rear bumper swing to mount it on. so stock for now.

TBH i hadnt even though about the potential damage to the wheel buy having it stored under the vehicle
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. i may have to lower the original spare to check it out.. so far aprox 6200 miles on our LC.

hope this info helps.
 
itsmywifesLC said:
I recently purchased a spare BBS wheel from my local dealership.

I was able to secure the price for the non BBS wheels since they initially ordered the wrong part # by mistake, after i had kindly mentioned to them to double check if we were ordering the right one. No harm no foul. i believe MSRP is just below $700.

I can also confirm it does not come with the center cap, and like someone mentioned if you place it in the spare tire position under the vehicle the center cap will not be used.

i have it in storage for now since im not sure i can fit it with 285/65/r18 in the spare tire position under the vehicle. Most likely will hang on to it until there is a rear bumper swing to mount it on. so stock for now.

TBH i hadnt even though about the potential damage to the wheel buy having it stored under the vehicleView attachment 2664254View attachment 2664253. i may have to lower the original spare to check it out.. so far aprox 6200 miles on our LC.

hope this info helps.
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Fitting in the spare location for that size won’t be an issue. Past 34” is where you have to start worrying.
 
itsmywifesLC said:
good to know.

thanks
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A little late to this thread, but glad I found it. I am getting DakarZero wheels with Falken WildPeak AT3w mounted tomorrow and was planning on a 5 tire rotation but now highly concerned about damage from the spare. If I leave the original spare in there, sizing will be fine in an emergency, but what about the TPMS mismatch? Am I going to get errors due to different tires and pressures?
 
I am sure its been asked before, but can the spare be mounted good-side down? I would rather do that and risk some chips than face-up and guaranteed paint rubs. At least face down you can reach under and wash it when you do the rest / check air ect.

A matching 5th wheel + 5-wheel rotation might cost a lot more to be worth the effort.....a swingout lol
 
scanavera said:
A little late to this thread, but glad I found it. I am getting DakarZero wheels with Falken WildPeak AT3w mounted tomorrow and was planning on a 5 tire rotation but now highly concerned about damage from the spare. If I leave the original spare in there, sizing will be fine in an emergency, but what about the TPMS mismatch? Am I going to get errors due to different tires and pressures?
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When you press the button for a TPMS reset all it does is cause the vehicle to learn the current pressures as the new baseline for alarms. So if your original P-metric spare at 33 is lower than your new AT3w's at say 40+, it'll keep track of what each ID is doing and alarm if any of them get below their thresholds calculated for that individual ID.

iwashmycar said:
I am sure its been asked before, but can the spare be mounted good-side down? I would rather do that and risk some chips than face-up and guaranteed paint rubs. At least face down you can reach under and wash it when you do the rest / check air ect.
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I don't think the bracket at the end of the chain will fit into the pocket in the wheel face for the lugs/etc. You are probably better off just finding something to act as a barrier to prevent finish damage from the rubber pads and keeping that clean any time you put a wheel into the spare location.
 
Also, keep in mind, that is a 20" wheel. I had similar markings on my OEM wheels as well. Buy my 17" wheels with 285/75R17 on them, the rubber bumpers hit the tire instead of the wheel.
 
lx200inAR said:
Also, keep in mind, that is a 20" wheel. I had similar markings on my OEM wheels as well. Buy my 17" wheels with 285/75R17 on them, the rubber bumpers hit the tire instead of the wheel.
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My original 18s, same size as HE wheels, had marks.
 
scanavera said:
A little late to this thread, but glad I found it. I am getting DakarZero wheels with Falken WildPeak AT3w mounted tomorrow and was planning on a 5 tire rotation but now highly concerned about damage from the spare. If I leave the original spare in there, sizing will be fine in an emergency, but what about the TPMS mismatch? Am I going to get errors due to different tires and pressures?
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Yes. I had my TPMS show an error when i installed the new wheel on the spare and placed back in the original spare storage position (under the back of the vehicle).

I had to order the TPMS sensor from Toyota and had it installed on the spare Heritage wheel at my local dealership.

Now the TPMS error is gone.

It looked something like this: as soon as i would hit either highway speeds or in the car long enough the TPMS light would blink before it stayed lit. i believe the manual says this indicates a malfunction or error as opposed to an actual Low pressure warning. I could be completely wrong but please read the manual JIC.
 
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