Tried mounting my hysteer for my spring over this weekend. Painted, Bolted the arms on, spun the tre into the tubes. When I tried to put the tre's into the arms the tube was resting on the spring packs before the tre bolts would slide into the arms. I have about 7 leaves up front on perches made by me. The perches are not very tall. The arms are definitley pointed down a bit. I know a c&T would remedy this, just clarifying that this has happened to folks before. It may be the combination of a high pinion angle and tall perches/lots of leaves? Any thoughts?
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Hi as i have had this problem when i went to trail gear six shooter knuckels, and my set up is as follows soa stock springs with 2 inch add a leaf my knuckels are cut and turned 15 degress . i love the six shooter knuckels but to solve the problem i called luke at 4x4 labs told him what i needed and he was glad to help. btw i run 4x4 lab set up on all three of my cruisers and so does cand john !! very happy with my setup.
pull a leaf out or as a last resort put some shim's in
and did you say15*, + or - ? how's it handle going down the road? did you have luke open the arms up to fit dana44 studs?
and did you say15*, + or - ? how's it handle going down the road? did you have luke open the arms up to fit dana44 studs?
Trail gear told me they did not make 6-shooters for the fj60????
they are not smart enough to know they are the same as mini's
Cruiserdrew
On the way there
yup same as a mini. sometimes people need more coffee through the day maybe they hadnt had theyres...
If I'm reading this right the OP is going SOA, did not c&t the knuckles and now the histeer arms are pointing down? So in effect, he pointed the pinion at the tcase but didn't correct the caster? That's going to be one heck of ride down the road! 15* caster? Or am I missing something?
Cruiserdrew
On the way there
I think some pictures are needed here.
There are several relationships to keep straight when you do this, but here the relationship between the "perch angle" and the knuckle is the important one. You also need to worry about the perches relative to the pinion.
The best way: Set your pinion to the desired angle, and position the perches to hold that angle. Then cut and rotate the knuckles back, to achieve the proper caster.
Something must not have gone right.
What kind of high-steer do you have?
There are several relationships to keep straight when you do this, but here the relationship between the "perch angle" and the knuckle is the important one. You also need to worry about the perches relative to the pinion.
The best way: Set your pinion to the desired angle, and position the perches to hold that angle. Then cut and rotate the knuckles back, to achieve the proper caster.
Something must not have gone right.
What kind of high-steer do you have?
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I get the process of a spring over. I made perches. I set the full weight on the axle. I pointed the pinion at the t-case output (used a laser, pretty cool) and will use a dc driveshaft. So yes the high steer arms are pointed down in front so much that with high steer arms on the tie rod cannot fully seat without laying on the front springs. Pics would help but I'm at work. Regardless, I will fix the whole problem with a cut and turn. Why not a cut and turn to begin with. It seems (like is the case with a shackle reversal) the topic is debatable. Some say do it, some dont. I figured I would make up my own mind as to its necessity. Since I can't bolt my steering together without it, I'll do it. No nothing went wrong, i'm not confused about a spring over. Just wanted to hear other experiences with their spring overs and caster (is this an uncommon problem). Thanks for the input though.
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forgot, marlin high steer, and rredfj40 your take on the original post is correct. I suppose those who do not C&T are not changing their pinion angle significantly therfore not changing their caster significantly. I'll cut and turn and be done with it.
There you go, if yopu point the pinion up at the Tcase without a Cnt you will have steering issues..
Do the Cut N turn and be happy..
right - if you don't cut and turn you have to match the pinion angle to the TC angle and use a non-DC front shaft (ala post-10/84 driveshaft)
That is what I thought. It really left me scratching my head after his answer
. It really does show how some people should not be on the tech line...
