craigslist Maltec Toyota Explorer Series 7

Year

2020

Vehicle Model

1. 70 Series

Location

United States

Just saw this for sale, no affiliation.

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Maltec Explorer Series 7 Double-cab Pick-Up with extended wheel base Custom Toyota Off-Road...

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[1MOA]

However there are probably a lot of “deep pocketed” guys out there that are clueless as to the potential legal issues. They simply know it’s cool and that their friends don’t have one.

Ask the Colorado couple who bought a US registered Maltec only to find out it was misrepresented by the man who sold it to them. they had to send it back to germany to have it built on a 80 chassis then returned.

Toyota Land Cruiser Troop Carrier For Sale – Deposit Taken - Live Work Wander

Our Troop Carrier is for sale. It is currently in Menden, Germany being rebuilt and refurbished. Once finished, it will then be reimported into North America. Visit Maltec to learn more about their builds here. WORK TO BE DONE: The 70 Series Troopy body will be mounted to a fully restored 80...

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[Gun Runner 5]

Ask the Colorado couple who bought a US registered Maltec only to find out it was misrepresented by the man who sold it to them. they had to send it back to germany to have it built on a 80 chassis then returned.

Toyota Land Cruiser Troop Carrier For Sale – Deposit Taken - Live Work Wander

Our Troop Carrier is for sale. It is currently in Menden, Germany being rebuilt and refurbished. Once finished, it will then be reimported into North America. Visit Maltec to learn more about their builds here. WORK TO BE DONE: The 70 Series Troopy body will be mounted to a fully restored 80...

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I wasn’t advocating for anyone in particular to buy this truck. I was simply expressing an opinion as to who potentially would.

 

[TonyP]

Ask the Colorado couple who bought a US registered Maltec only to find out it was misrepresented by the man who sold it to them. they had to send it back to germany to have it built on a 80 chassis then returned.

Toyota Land Cruiser Troop Carrier For Sale – Deposit Taken - Live Work Wander

Our Troop Carrier is for sale. It is currently in Menden, Germany being rebuilt and refurbished. Once finished, it will then be reimported into North America. Visit Maltec to learn more about their builds here. WORK TO BE DONE: The 70 Series Troopy body will be mounted to a fully restored 80...

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That's not even the one I heard a rumor about. That was another one with a similar story.

 

[Reinhardtius]

Ask the Colorado couple who bought a US registered Maltec only to find out it was misrepresented by the man who sold it to them. they had to send it back to germany to have it built on a 80 chassis then returned.

Toyota Land Cruiser Troop Carrier For Sale – Deposit Taken - Live Work Wander

Our Troop Carrier is for sale. It is currently in Menden, Germany being rebuilt and refurbished. Once finished, it will then be reimported into North America. Visit Maltec to learn more about their builds here. WORK TO BE DONE: The 70 Series Troopy body will be mounted to a fully restored 80...

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That is a horror story. Can you imagine spending that kind of money only to find that is not US road legal?

There is, unfortunately, no way for Maltec to import that vehicle on a 80 series chassis legally. All vehicles imported must comply with FMVSS or if older than 25 years, be in original and unmodified condition. These folks should just seek a non-US buyer.

 

[1MOA]

That is a horror story. Can you imagine spending that kind of money only to find that is not US road legal?

There is, unfortunately, no way for Maltec to import that vehicle on a 80 series chassis legally. All vehicles imported must comply with FMVSS or if older than 25 years, be in original and unmodified condition. These folks should just seek a non-US buyer.

If you read their blog apparently Maltec had something to do with the vehicle not being legally registered in the US and tried to make it right with the rebuild.

 

[destructomatt]

These guys are the kings of purchasing expensive exotic vehicles they know nothing about. Before this Troopy they had a Syncro Westy built with a diesel crate engine and wiring harness built by a drunkard with a glue huffing problem. Watch their youtube series. They were on a flatbed basically every episode.

 

[Bogan]

Sackwear took it out and shot photos of it. Really beautiful rig. I don't get the hate. I do get the questioning of its legality as Mud has proven to be quite the ally in taking down Papp, etc. Login • Instagram Legality aside, if I was some rich dude with money to spare, I would fork out the $160k to have a dream truck here in the USA. I would then fly in a certified mechanic on my learjet to maintain it every 100,000kms... lol

 

[AdventureTim]

Well...actually, if you do this, you are importing it, or "re-importing" it, to be technically correct. The NHTSA will require certification that it is still in compliance with all relevant FMVSS, and the EPA will need to certify that the original drivetrain and emissions equipment is in place as originally manufactured. So I'm not sure what kind of modifications you might be thinking of, but certainly nothing like body, engine, and chassis swapping.

Presumably the work they're doing with 200 series' would be legal though, right? A US owned and registered 200 is shipped over to Germany, modified, then sent back - the engine, drivetrain and chassis are still original.

 

[SNLC]

Why not just build the dream truck stateside, as Tony is doing? Totally legal and totally legit.

Cheers

 

[gungriffin]

Why not just build the dream truck stateside, as Tony is doing? Totally legal and totally legit.

Cheers

Who are they building it with?Having to ship the truck to Europe is one part of Maltec that is a bit frustrating.

 

[AdventureTim]

Why not just build the dream truck stateside, as Tony is doing? Totally legal and totally legit.

Would love more info on this. I'm about to pull the trigger on a Maltec 200 build; my rationale being that I haven't seen anything stateside that's to the same level of quality and design here.

 

[FJ73Texas]

Would love more info on this. I'm about to pull the trigger on a Maltec 200 build; my rationale being that I haven't seen anything stateside that's to the same level of quality and design here.

Seems like it would be cheaper to start with an used 07+ Tundra 4WD regular cab and go from there but I am guessing cost is not an issue to you if you plan to start with a new 200 series and cut it up.

 

[gungriffin]

Seems like it would be cheaper to start with an used 07+ Tundra 4WD regular cab and go from there but I am guessing cost is not an issue to you if you plan to start with a new 200 series and cut it up.

I don't believe that Maltec requires a new 200. They just use what is provided in the case of a 200 or they help to source the parts with a HDJ80 chassis build.

I was really hoping that Maltec would offer some sort of bolt on box for the back of a Tundra, but I haven't seen anything concrete about that yet.

 

[AdventureTim]

Seems like it would be cheaper to start with an used 07+ Tundra 4WD regular cab and go from there but I am guessing cost is not an issue to you if you plan to start with a new 200 series and cut it up.

I'm building a vehicle for global travel; finding Tundra parts outside of North America is difficult, whereas the 200 was sold in 160 different countries. I haven't come across domestic companies that build things in the same fashion (high quality cabinets, carbon fiber cabin etc).

 

[TonyP]

I'm building a vehicle for global travel; finding Tundra parts outside of North America is difficult, whereas the 200 was sold in 160 different countries. I haven't come across domestic companies that build things in the same fashion (high quality cabinets, carbon fiber cabin etc).

What parts are you concerned about? The 3UR is the same in the Tundra vs the 200. Trans is similar (same I believe) but the t-case is different (Full time vs Part time) Also, the 5.7 isn't nearly as common as the 4.6, 4.7 or 4.5 diesel. For chassis components the 200 and Tundra are fairly similar from the cab forward.

I wouldn't hesitate taking a Tundra on a global trip if the platform checked my boxes (it doesn't fit my needs/wants, personally, though)

That said, if you're buying, shipping, having them modify and ship back, that sounds legit to me.

 

[gilmorneau]

Presumably the work they're doing with 200 series' would be legal though, right? A US owned and registered 200 is shipped over to Germany, modified, then sent back - the engine, drivetrain and chassis are still original.

Depends on the modifications, but it would probably be OK. EPA requires an "unmodified vehicle bearing a U.S. EPA emission control label in engine compartment...in English". Presumably, since they're the EPA, by "unmodified", they mean engine and emissions equipment, but it is a little vague.

US DOT requires that the vehicle conform to all "applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards", of which there are many, BTW. If you're talking about a 200 series camper conversion, you might run into some trouble with rear bumper regulations and/or side impact protection, for example, but I'm not sure either would be a deal killer.

In either case, if the truck remained registered in the USA before and after export/import, things might be easier for you. You might want to talk with a Customs Broker about it, though.

Why not just build the dream truck stateside, as Tony is doing? Totally legal and totally legit.

To clarify, while Tony's build seems totally on the up and up (USA chassis, exempt body, EPA certified motor), the mere fact that a rig is put together in the USA does not confer legal status in and of itself. While, again, not applicable to Tony's build, one could theoretically piece together a truck using, for example, a non-EPA certified or non-exempt motor, as well as non-conforming and non-exempt body parts. All assembled in the USA, but still in violation of Federal Statute.

I was really hoping that Maltec would offer some sort of bolt on box for the back of a Tundra, but I haven't seen anything concrete about that yet.

I'm pretty sure they were working on this when the COVID thing hit. My sources in Germany tell me Maltec had some plans for the USA that are on hold. They were being coy about what, exactly, those plans were, but I know they were considering a US built Tundra camper. Doubt they'd sell you the box by itself--they're more into doing the entire conversion.

 

[AdventureTim]

Depends on the modifications, but it would probably be OK. EPA requires an "unmodified vehicle bearing a U.S. EPA emission control label in engine compartment...in English". Presumably, since they're the EPA, by "unmodified", they mean engine and emissions equipment, but it is a little vague.

US DOT requires that the vehicle conform to all "applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards", of which there are many, BTW. If you're talking about a 200 series camper conversion, you might run into some trouble with rear bumper regulations and/or side impact protection, for example, but I'm not sure either would be a deal killer.

In either case, if the truck remained registered in the USA before and after export/import, things might be easier for you. You might want to talk with a Customs Broker about it, though.

Thank you for the detailed reply, it's very helpful! The truck will be US registered before and after. I can see how the side/rear crash regulations could be a complicated grey area; I wonder how the small-volume domestic car modifiers ("kit cars" etc) get away with it.

 

[gilmorneau]

I wonder how the small-volume domestic car modifiers ("kit cars" etc) get away with it.

As of 2015, they're exempt. Google "Low Volume Motor Vehicle Manufacturer's Act".