LX700h (2 Viewers)

[peneumbra2]

When will Toyota bring out the Uber-cool model:
The PHEW!!!

 

[peneumbra2]

Omg our insurance is going up 1300 every 6 months between the move to Colorado and the extra mileage. Averaging out at 200 per vehicle.the 4runner is more than the GX even though it's half the miles.

23 year USAA customer. They are not cheap but they always do me a solid.

Ummm, what... what is insurance?

 

[Jetboy]

Phev is the best solution IMO. It's coming whether Toyota gets onboard or not. Rumor is that the next Gen of hd light trucks will have phev models. The super duty is already testing. Ranger phev is coming. It does everything better than ice if done well and solves most of the hardest challenges of EVs.

I think it's actually the opposite of a half measure. EV is half measure. Ice is half measure. Phev is the most comprehensive design.

 

[re_guderian]

Finally, the true benefit of electric motors off road. Instant max torque at any RPM...

The hybrid system also has an all-terrain benefit, with the LX700h capable of driving exclusively off of the electric motor in low-range scenarios where the driver would want precise throttle control.

Maybe in 10 years when prices of them used are more to my liking.

 

[Arailt]

Are those typical CA rates? We pay $221/mo for both vehicles from a reputable carrier. It was $180/mo until recently when our carrier jumped up all rates across the board.

Omg our insurance is going up 1300 every 6 months between the move to Colorado and the extra mileage. Averaging out at 200 per vehicle.the 4runner is more than the GX even though it's half the miles.

23 year USAA customer. They are not cheap but they always do me a solid.

I have USAA too. For two vehicles (GX and a BMW X5), I paid $125 a month in Pennsylvania. That jumped to $175 in Dallas. Over the past year or so it jumped to $225, and now $250. I'm sure it's going to go up again soon. Insurance companies are getting clobbered thanks to the economy. I think USAA had its first net loss in like 100 years recently. Hard times.

 

[185]

For those looking to overland. The GVM grew from 3280kg to 3380kg while the fully fueled weight is 2830kg. That leaves only 550kg for passenger and payload. So you can forget about building an overlanding rig with this one.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I have USAA too. For two vehicles (GX and a BMW X5), I paid $125 a month in Pennsylvania. That jumped to $175 in Dallas. Over the past year or so it jumped to $225, and now $250. I'm sure it's going to go up again soon. Insurance companies are getting clobbered thanks to the economy. I think USAA had its first net loss in like 100 years recently. Hard times.

No, totally. Gx in Des Moines is like 70 a month for 12k miles and the 4Runner is 80 or 90 for 5k miles.
When I lived in Houston it was bonkers.

 

[MrTorgue]

For those looking to overland. The GVM grew from 3280kg to 3380kg while the fully fueled weight is 2830kg. That leaves only 550kg for passenger and payload. So you can forget about building an overlanding rig with this one.

That is an excellent point. Weight and payload matter. I guess people will run overland trailers then?

 

[r2m]

Omg our insurance is going up 1300 every 6 months between the move to Colorado and the extra mileage. Averaging out at 200 per vehicle.the 4runner is more than the GX even though it's half the miles.

23 year USAA customer. They are not cheap but they always do me a solid.

I looked at USAA, but we've been with AAA so long (almost 40 years), USAA couldn't beat AAA. Plus we have their "Road side assistance", which is very worth it!

 

[r2m]

My cars (Tundra, GX460, VW Golf R, all 2016-2018) are $550-750 per six months each, in the greater SF bay area. I no longer put commuter mileage on any of them but that didn't seem to make much difference. I'm looking forward to seeing what they are in Oregon when we move. With way fewer cars and less aggressive drivers it should be a lot less but who knows.

I'm sure the higher premiums in SF also include costs for all the crime up there, especially all the smash and grab's they're doing on cars.

 

[r2m]

I spend a good chunk of change on transportation every month. We're a single income household, so this is quite a stretch. But you're gonna spend a lot of time on the road in LA, so it's worth investing in your comfort. If you don't like your car, it can feel like torture. I'm looking forward to owning the GX outright next year.

Absolutely agree. Nothing worst than stuck in grid lock traffic with a horrible seat and sound system.
For over two years I commuted about 85 miles each way, deep in to Glendale. I purchased a used Chevy Sprint, 3 cylinder for fuel economy and then replace the front seats with a pair of Celica Supra seats. Made a world of difference everyday. The only thing (aside from almost everything else with that car) was the size of the gas tank. I think it was like only 10 gallons. I had to fill up every other day. At the time I had a Porsche and a turbo MR2. I often would take either one of those because the range was so much further and wouldn't have to stop for gas so often, even though the Sprint had better MPG.

 

[r2m]

Shhhhh, don't tell him I pay about ~$100/mo total for full coverage on both our vehicles.

OH MY GOSH!!!
Are you gloating too!!!
My self esteem is feeling pretty low now... May have to sell all our vehicles now and get an e-bike.
Or buy a Yugo and join one of their forums.

 

[Rednexus]

I have USAA too. For two vehicles (GX and a BMW X5), I paid $125 a month in Pennsylvania. That jumped to $175 in Dallas. Over the past year or so it jumped to $225, and now $250. I'm sure it's going to go up again soon. Insurance companies are getting clobbered thanks to the economy. I think USAA had its first net loss in like 100 years recently. Hard times.

We have Shelter, which is a Missouri-based company and has taken care of us pretty well for 2 sizeable homeowners claims. They said the same thing when I asked about the 20% increase - cars are worth more, repair costs are higher, and inflation is killing them. While they didn't say this we at least anecdotally seem to be having a lot more collisions in the post-COVID world of distracted, phone-addicted, and angry people. Still, it sucks having your premiums go up like that when you vehicles are getting older -and- my wife and I have near-perfect driving records.

My homeowners policy has also gone up quite a bit, although the value of my home has also doubled in the 11 years since we bought it.

 

[Acrad]

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My ‘12 GX 460

 

[ericm979]

I'm sure the higher premiums in SF also include costs for all the crime up there, especially all the smash and grab's they're doing on cars.

I'm 1.5 hours from SF. The crime there isn't really all that bad. It was far worse back in the '90s when I was going there all the time, and to clubs not the business district. I never had a problem.

All the media exaggerate crime. So do politicians.

 

[jeremy j]

I've looked into it and I just can't justify an EV. It's like 300/month to lease one of the cheap ones when you include the down payment. Add in the extra insurance (way high on electrics isn't it?) and the tax and title and it's really more like $400/month. I commute 35 miles a day, about 4 days a week, even at 14mpg, that's only about $175-225 in fuel a month. If I drove the EV everywhere but on long trips, maybe I'd save $300/month in gas. I'd be paying $100/month plus insurance for the pleasure of driving a Hyundai or Nisan Leaf. I get not wanting to put miles on the GX, but I only paid $14K 4 years ago, so it makes more sense for me to just drive the wheels off of it, maintain the crap out of it, and buy another used one if I wreck it. I wish I wasn't peeing on the environment, but it's got to make sense financially. It might be different if I wasn't a cheap bastard or cared about having a fancy touch screen to tell me when I can change lanes.

If your truck is paid off, I totally understand not wanting another car payment to save on gas but have you looked at used Bolts? We bought one to replace my wife's clapped out Prius that she loved. The Bolt was about about $14K after the $4k used ev tax credit for a 2 year old one with 30K. I was shocked how good it is at what it is for. 250 miles of range, doesn't take long to charge with a level 2. We charge it once or twice a week. I think what I like most is that when I need to run to the grocery store or something, I don't have to warm up the GX. I just hop in the Bolt and go. The electric make it feel like you are just driving a golf cart or something. No effort, no warm up and very little energy used.

Edit: Forgot to mention that due to the recalls, prety much all used bolts got new batteries. Our's had a brand new battery in it when we got it at 30K miles.

 

[jeremy j]

Anyways, in the case of LX700h, there's a starter and alternator so even if you do have complete hybrid failure the traditional system can take over.

That is the first hybrid that I've seen that has this. I don't know why (obviously cost) all hybrids don't have this. I hated the one time our old Prius had hybrid issues, it was stranded even though I had an ICE motor.

 

[jeremy j]

I have USAA too. For two vehicles (GX and a BMW X5), I paid $125 a month in Pennsylvania. That jumped to $175 in Dallas. Over the past year or so it jumped to $225, and now $250. I'm sure it's going to go up again soon. Insurance companies are getting clobbered thanks to the economy. I think USAA had its first net loss in like 100 years recently. Hard times.

I finally dropped USAA after they doubled my rates in the last few years and I had never had a claim.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I finally dropped USAA after they doubled my rates in the last few years and I had never had a claim.

I get it. I have had enough claims with them over the years that it's worth it to me, but they are like Safeco expensive now.

 

[r2m]

I finally dropped USAA after they doubled my rates in the last few years and I had never had a claim.

Who did you go with? Or still shopping?
With AAA, we bundle our home, roadside, etc. all into one.