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300 series hybrid with over-trail features, a real starter, and an alternator in case the hybrid system craps out in the bush. Rad.
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IMHO PHEVs are the most practical for sure but these cars aren't being purchased by people who car about mpg or practicality. I think PHEVs are more for the small SUV and sedan crowds. I've also not seen Toyota/Lexus embrace this setup. There are two issues with PHEVs 1) they don't contribute to the manufacture averages that legislators car about, and 2) they cost too much to produce and so the price tends to be a lot higher for the consumer. That said, from a truck standpoint Toyota seems to be much more focused on the power benefits than mpg with these choices. Again, this is all just my opinion based on my observations so take it as such.While this is very intruguing Toyota is still missing the boat. A PHEV would of been a much better option than a twin turbo hybrid setup.
PHEVs would add extra power that is missing on the LX, and would finally move the needle for me personally. Lexus has given up developing or even perfecting their current ICE stack like they have for generations before. All they do these days is release a half baked ice motor system, that they heavily assist with a electric system and make bank.IMHO PHEVs are the most practical for sure but these cars aren't being purchased by people who car about mpg or practicality. I think PHEVs are more for the small SUV and sedan crowds. I've also not seen Toyota/Lexus embrace this setup. There are two issues with PHEVs 1) they don't contribute to the manufacture averages that legislators car about, and 2) they cost too much to produce and so the price tends to be a lot higher for the consumer. That said, from a truck standpoint Toyota seems to be much more focused on the power benefits than mpg with these choices. Again, this is all just my opinion based on my observations so take it as such.
Tbh, Lexus product planning seems to be learning about customers by hiring marketing firms to search the top trending words used by social media platforms and its not delivering products that move the needle for Lexus enthusiasts.
GX550 (inches) | LX700 (inches) | |
Length | 197.1 | 200.8 |
Width | 78.0 | 78.3 |
Heigth | 75.6 | 74.6 |
Wheelbase | 112.2 | 112.2 |
Weight | 5467 lbs | 6128 lbs |
Price/lb | ||
LX400 price: ~$97,000 | $15.8/lb | |
GX550 price: ~$73,000 | $13.4/lb |
Can you add the 460 to this comparison if you have time? 550 and LX600/700 have the same suspension and eKDSS, right? Except with the 600/700, AHC is an option.The overall spec's are almost identical to the GX550, except for weight and price.
GX550
(inches)LX700
(inches)Length 197.1 200.8 Width 78.0 78.3 Heigth 75.6 74.6 Wheelbase 112.2 112.2 Weight 5467 lbs 6128 lbs Price/lb LX400 price: ~$97,000 $15.8/lb GX550 price: ~$73,000 $13.4/lb
That and you'll actually get better fuel economy averages than the TT V6 which would absolutely help Toyota's rating with those stupid CAFE regs. The people count who take this generation LX offroad is probably 1. Absolutely no one offroads an LX until it is very used and already has lots of mileage ouside of the factory warranty. And even then I can count on my hand how many I've seen.PHEVs would add extra power that is missing on the LX
↑ ABSOLUTELY!! ↑I don't care about the hybrid, I am just excited for a triple locked 310 series.
Here you go Jake!Can you add the 460 to this comparison if you have time? 550 and LX600/700 have the same suspension and eKDSS, right? Except with the 600/700, AHC is an option.
GX470 (2009) | GX460 (2024) | GX550 | LX700 | |
(inches) | (inches) | (inches) | (inches) | (inches) |
Length | 188.2 | 192.1 | 197.1 | 200.8 |
Width | 74.0 | 74.2 | 78.0 | 78.3 |
Heigth | 74.6 | 73.8 | 75.6 | 74.6 |
Wheelbase | 109.8 | 109.8 | 112.2 | 112.2 |
Weight | 4,871 lbs | 5,192 lbs | 5,467 lbs | 6,128 lbs |
MPG | 15 MPG combined | 16 MPG combined | 17 MPG combined | 19 MPG combined |
Price/lb | ||||
LX400 price: ~$97,000 | $15.8/lb | |||
GX550 price: ~$73,000 | $13.4/lb | |||
GX460 price: ~$58,991 | $11.4/lb | |||
GX470 price: ~$53,103 | $10.9/lb |
Yeah, but she lets me take it out on the weekends.Not sure what it's like in your location but in the USA the "Lexus enthusiast" is a middle aged woman hauling kids and/or grandkids around.
Agreed, but I wouldn't buy any current-gen EVs. Battery tech isn't there. When the battery lasts at least 20 years (in desert climate), goes 300+ miles between charges, and I can recharge in 10 minutes or less, I'll be happy to trade my V8 for an electric land cruiser or GX. Toyota says they have a solid-state lithium coming in 2026, I think. Solid State lithium should check most of the boxes above if not all.I'm not keen on the half measures in the market right now.
I'm excited to see what Toyota's been up to these past few years with battery tech. That silly little thing they made with Subaru does not bode well for them, but I remain optimistic.Agreed, but I wouldn't buy any current-gen EVs. Battery tech isn't there. When the battery lasts at least 20 years (in desert climate), goes 300+ miles between charges, and I can recharge in 10 minutes or less, I'll be happy to trade my V8 for an electric land cruiser or GX. Toyota says they have a solid-state lithium coming in 2026, I think. Solid State lithium should check most of the boxes above if not all.