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[stellite]

My 2013 Landcruiser has one and I’m pretty sure all US market 200-series did as well.

It is not intended to be changed, the rivets and lack of a separate part number make that clear.

And yes our airboxes are prone to fine dust bypassing the primary filter. I have seen evidence of this on my rig and it’s a well-known issue on the 1VD variants leading to turbo and piston ring issues. They seem to get it worse than the US rigs.. could be differences in the air box design.

Because of this I run K&N filter grease on the flange of my air filter and haven’t had the issue come up since.

I’d personally be shocked if Toyota intended the carbon filter to handle particulates, as that would be admitting their airbox design may be flawed.

Also the bit about reducing turbulence was my speculation, based on that method being used in other places. Thinking through it further it won’t do anything for that job that the primary air filter didn’t already do.

Do you also run a K&N filter?

 

[LCH21]

As others have said, it is definitely riveted in. I am guessing you have to vacuum it out when you want to clean it. Funny thing is, I think only the Lexus comes with it. I looked at some Tundra boxes and they don't have it. But again, this could be after a certain year.

My 2008 5.7L Tundra had it. When I replaced the airbox with the TRD CAI system, even that had the filter. It was riveted in both boxes. As stated before, the purpose of this filter is to absorb the "blow back" when the engine is shut off.

 

[2021 LC200]

My Oct 2020 has this and I like it as a back up to the replaceable filter to prevent fine dust bypassing.

Per Bloc and what I have seen online, the diesel version in Australia perhaps together with wash board road use is prone to that. May also be the slightly different factory filter setup. In any case, since it is downstream of the replaceable filter it should stay in good shape, let enough air through as it is factory design and is a good insurance against any bypass.

 

[bloc]

Do you also run a K&N filter?

Nope, and I probably never will on a road going car.

 

[stellite]

My 2008 5.7L Tundra had it. When I replaced the airbox with the TRD CAI system, even that had the filter. It was riveted in both boxes. As stated before, the purpose of this filter is to absorb the "blow back" when the engine is shut off.

So the one I saw must have been removed.

Nope, and I probably never will on a road going car.

Yup. KN filters have been the death of many a MAF.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

And yes our airboxes are prone to fine dust bypassing the primary filter.

Hmmm, where do you think this is happening?

And if so (fine dust), the riveted in filter would absolutely be restricting airflow, and need to be cleaned or replaced. Is there any threads about this being an issue? I wonder if there is a way to firm up the seal. I am going to investigate this further. Dirty air is a killer, big time.

Yup. KN filters have been the death of many a MAF.

People over oil. Really, what you are supposed to do is:

1) Clean and oil the filter
2) Install and run the filter a bit
3) Remove the MAF and clean

K&N works great on equipment like a tractor or on older carbed stuff that does not have a sensor.

Then you dont have drivability issues, but the MAF typically has a heater, and oil on the heater is no good, just like touching a light bulb.

 

[bloc]

Hmmm, where do you think this is happening?

And if so (fine dust), the riveted in filter would absolutely be restricting airflow, and need to be cleaned or replaced. Is there any threads about this being an issue? I wonder if there is a way to firm up the seal. I am going to investigate this further. Dirty air is a killer, big time.

100% my opinion here, but I suspect the spacing between the clamps is too large given the stiffness of the box, and the box halves are flexing more than the rubber lip seal on the filter can accommodate. The filter grease effectively made the lip seal thicker without increasing preload, which could make the box flex even more. I'm not a huge fan of the dust that sticks to the grease and must be cleaned when I open the box, but this is still better than the way things were.

I agree dirty air is a killer but used oil analysis after the fix confirmed wear metals in normal ranges, so I wasn't too concerned. As mentioned it does seem the 4.5TD variants had a much larger problem here, though that could also be the environment they operate in.

As for restricted airflow, I have no evidence that is the case. Yes I did vacuum it out (reverse normal airflow direction) but that made no difference in appearance or performance. In hindsight I probably should have banged it against the ground to see what fell out of it, but it's too late for that. The dust I did see on the clean side of the box was extremely fine and truly minimal.. most people wouldn't even notice.

 

[stellite]

Hmmm, where do you think this is happening?

And if so (fine dust), the riveted in filter would absolutely be restricting airflow, and need to be cleaned or replaced. Is there any threads about this being an issue? I wonder if there is a way to firm up the seal. I am going to investigate this further. Dirty air is a killer, big time.

People over oil. Really, what you are supposed to do is:

1) Clean and oil the filter
2) Install and run the filter a bit
3) Remove the MAF and clean

K&N works great on equipment like a tractor or on older carbed stuff that does not have a sensor.

Then you dont have drivability issues, but the MAF typically has a heater, and oil on the heater is no good, just like touching a light bulb.

yeah, most people threw them in the 911 turbo, and had trouble. Washing first and not oiling was the only way to make them work. I used BMC filters on mine, so never had an issue.