low range kit

low range kit for yota trucks/ 4runners

  • trail gear 4.7:1

    Votes: 4 17.4%

  • advanced adapters 4:1

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • marlin crawler 4.7:1

    Votes: 19 82.6%

  • 5:1/ other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .

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I'm getting ready to order a low range kit from advance adapters i want to go with 4:1 kit. but i want some in put from people have the kits or that have ran other brands or ratios.


1979 Toyota 4x4 20r 33s
 
I have adapter number 606 and have been running the same Marlin crawler since 2000. I am on my second truck with the same Marlin crawler. When I built up my second truck I noticed that the splines going into the Marlin crawler were starting to strip out. I called Marlin and he sent me a new coupler for 23 spline free of charge and I up graded my gears to 4.7 in the crawler at the same time. Between the two trucks my crawler has been in I have over 75 K miles.

My vote is for Marlin all the way! His products are well made, and his customers service has always treated me very well. Marlin himself even got on the phone with me to make sure that I was getting the right coupler.

To date Marlin Czajkowsk is the closest person to a celebrity that I have ever talked to.
 
I run a marlin 4.7 kit in my truck, on 235/85R16 (basically 32x10) and that is the single greatest upgrade I have done, besides putting lockers in. I have power that i thought the little bugger would never have (gearing cough cough)
 
cruiser88 said:
no s***..........can be hell on a 21 spline to
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disagree

especially with 33's

there are plenty of 21 spline dual ultimates, in minis on 37's+ hitting the hardest trails out there. Sure some have broke, but they are strong as hell! and with 33's he'll be fine.

and the control gained by "crawling ratios" is too much fun, regarless of tire size. I always tell people they should do tires, lockers, then t-case, even if they are still on small tires. I wheel with a guy on 33's rear locker and duals, and he makes me look like a moron, as he follows me up most of the trails.

I voted marlin, though I do have 5:1 IW's because I couldnt pass up a deal and they have been perfect for me, even with a 5000lb+ rig, duals, 37's, and a 3.4L.
 
Had I not found such a killer deal on my Marlin 4.7 gears I would have gotten trail gear 4.7s. The price tag on the Marlin gears is steep, but they are worth it.

With that said, can't wait to step it up to dual cases with the 4.7's in the back.
 
4rnr said:
disagree

and he makes me look like a moron
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Don't sell yourself short John... you're very capable in your own right.

Now that that is set straight. I have a Marlin 4.7 in the ToyBox and I love it. I agree with John (holy crap, is the world gonna' end now?), lower gearing allows you to slow down, think about what you're doing and get/ keep yourself out of trouble.
 
trail gear is susposed to have a great track record but not as good as marlin, but hey you can never argue with advanced adapters they have been doing it longer than anyone, but i still say trail gear the 4.7 to one if a great ratio and they specialize in toyotas
 
sparticus said:
trail gear is susposed to have a great track record but not as good as marlin, but hey you can never argue with advanced adapters they have been doing it longer than anyone, but i still say trail gear the 4.7 to one if a great ratio and they specialize in toyotas
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At the risk of summoning the anti trail-gear armys of the internets...

I disagree, Trail gear has a great record of great prices, and a good record of customer service (see *). However, now that their stuff has been on the trail for a few years, Im hearing more and more about failures and complaints. Perticularly on the more proprietary items (ie springs, six shooters (though minimal), etc... rather than brakets). *This has caused Tral gear to institute and/or actually enforce some fine print in the warranty, that will continue to keep me away.

Having said that, I would very careful about saving a little $ now that may cost you dearly out on the trail.

For some their items i just dont think the risk is worth the reward, I would atleast wait til the gears have had a few years on the trail before I would trust them.
 
4rnr said:
At the risk of summoning the anti trail-gear armys of the internets...

I disagree, Trail gear has a great record of great prices, and a good record of customer service (see *). However, now that their stuff has been on the trail for a few years, Im hearing more and more about failures and complaints. Perticularly on the more proprietary items (ie springs, six shooters (though minimal), etc... rather than brakets). *This has caused Tral gear to institute and/or actually enforce some fine print in the warranty, that will continue to keep me away.

Having said that, I would very careful about saving a little $ now that may cost you dearly out on the trail.

For some their items i just dont think the risk is worth the reward, I would atleast wait til the gears have had a few years on the trail before I would trust them.
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Or you can buy from the source that will stand behind their product (sometimes even when they shouldn't, ie. obvious abuse)= Marlin.

Think of it this way. Suppose you're going to produce a product that is "identical" to another on the market, but you're going to offer it at a lower price. In order to sell it for less, you need to save some money somewhere. You can NOT "magically" do all the same things as your competitor for less money. You can save on design and engineering, you can save on manufacturing costs by having it made overseas, you can save by using a less expensive alloy or heat treating process or you can have a lower profit margin. Something has to give. I personally doubt it is profit margin.
 
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LukeZero said:
Or you can buy from the source that will stand behind their product (sometimes even when they shouldn't, ie. obvious abuse)= Marlin.

Think of it this way. Suppose you're going to produce a product that is "identical" to another on the market, but you're going to offer it at a lower price. In order to sell it for less, you need to save some money somewhere. You can NOT "magically" do all the same things as your competitor for less money. You can save on design and engineering, you can save on manufacturing costs by having it made overseas, you can save by using a less expensive alloy or heat treating process or you can have a lower profit margin. Something has to give. I personally doubt it is profit margin.
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yup, Trail gear has none of my money.
 
4rnr said:
and he makes me look like a moron
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LukeZero said:
Don't sell yourself short John... you're very capable in your own right.
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Crap, Luke beat me to the punch. :lol: That's qouteable fodder though, simply b/c I'm on 31's and a self admitted more-on!
As far as the A-T-G armies, well, the poll results will likely say enough for who the best is in our personal opinions, right? :D

That said, IMHO, Marlins times-elebenty1billion!!!
 
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