LC/LX - T-bars, Swaybars, Rear springs differences

[LandCruiserPhil]

Down and dirty answer NONE

Vehicles
2006 LC
2006 LX
2003 LC
2003 LX
1999 LC
1999 LX

All T-bars, F&R swaybar, and rear springs have the same part numbers for the years and models listed above. Models availavble with and without AHC - same part numbers also.

Front sway 48811
T-bars 48161, 48162
Rear sway 48805
Rear springs 48231A, 48231B

Source toyodiy.com

 

[Jim_Chow]

According to toyota-parts.com, here is what you need to convert a AHC equipped LC/LX to a stock LC non-AHC suspension:

front: non-AHC t-bars, shocks
rear: non-AHC springs, shocks, sway-bar, sway-bar bushings

The front sway bars for both AHC LC and non-AHC LC are the same, as are all the rods that hold the rear axle in place. And in a recent thread, someone mentioned they had measured the thickness of the non-AHC rear sway bar vs. the AHC sway bar, and it was very small. If you buy all these new, they come out to around $1200 or less, which is still less than the price of 4 new globes for the AHC or less than the price of the AHC pump. This is the only setup I've seen that gives no lift for those who want to maintain stock height or suspension feel.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

According to toyota-parts.com, here is what you need to convert a AHC equipped LC/LX to a stock LC non-AHC suspension:

front: non-AHC t-bars, shocks
rear: non-AHC springs, shocks, sway-bar, sway-bar bushings

The front sway bars for both AHC LC and non-AHC LC are the same, as are all the rods that hold the rear axle in place. And in a recent thread, someone mentioned they had measured the thickness of the non-AHC rear sway bar vs. the AHC sway bar, and it was very small. If you buy all these new, they come out to around $1200 or less, which is still less than the price of 4 new globes for the AHC or less than the price of the AHC pump. This is the only setup I've seen that gives no lift for those who want to maintain stock height or suspension feel.

I posted the part numbers from toyodiy.com what different part numbers does toyota-parts.com show?

 

[semlin]

trying to research this.

is this the final answer?

if so, it might make a good faq.

 

[RL4x4]

Down and dirty answer NONE

Vehicles
2006 LC
2006 LX
2003 LC
2003 LX
1999 LC
1999 LX

All T-bars, F&R swaybar, and rear springs have the same part numbers for the years and models listed above. Models availavble with and without AHC - same part numbers also.

Front sway 48811
T-bars 48161, 48162
Rear sway 48805
Rear springs 48231A, 48231B

Source toyodiy.com

Are you sure? I recently ordered OE Toyota rear springs for my '01 LC and there were different parts #s for vehicles with and without 3rd row seating.

 

[3D FJ]

According to toyota-parts.com, here is what you need to convert a AHC equipped LC/LX to a stock LC non-AHC suspension:

front: non-AHC t-bars, shocks
rear: non-AHC springs, shocks, sway-bar, sway-bar bushings

The front sway bars for both AHC LC and non-AHC LC are the same, as are all the rods that hold the rear axle in place. And in a recent thread, someone mentioned they had measured the thickness of the non-AHC rear sway bar vs. the AHC sway bar, and it was very small. If you buy all these new, they come out to around $1200 or less, which is still less than the price of 4 new globes for the AHC or less than the price of the AHC pump. This is the only setup I've seen that gives no lift for those who want to maintain stock height or suspension feel.

This statement in bold... does this mean that the AHC rear sway bar and the non-AHC rear sway bar thickness is not very different, or very different? Would this mean that a new rear swaybar would be necessary for someone converting from AHC to non-AHC? Can someone clarify this? What about the sway-bar bushings?

 

[hoser]

The front anti-sway bars are the same. The rear anti-sway bar vs AHC anti-sway bar have different part numbers but the measured difference was very little (less than 1mm difference, LC being thicker).The two bigger ASB bushings are also different.

 

[OGBeno]

Front sway 48811
T-bars 48161, 48162
Rear sway 48805
Rear springs 48231A, 48231B

Source toyodiy.com

Those aren't part numbers. They are PNC's.

 

[lexi4darin]

With PNC's you can look up Part #s.

 

[OGBeno]

With PNC's you can look up Part #s.

If you have access to the EPC, then yes.

 

[Tinkerer]

Converted my 99 LX to stock LC suspension.

Changed front T-bars, rear Coils, and shocks to LC.

Left the sway bars alone (as original LX). Vehicle corners fine IMO (and I'm picky). So much for 1mm difference in rear sway bar, LC vs. LX.

I think I'm finally getting used to stock LC ride...

 

[semlin]

the original post says that lc and lx torsion bars have the same pnc. are they not the same?

 

[OGBeno]

the original post says that lc and lx torsion bars have the same pnc. are they not the same?

Having the same PNC does not mean the part numbers are the same. A PNC is used for categorizing a component/part/assy. That's all.

A PNC may read 48815A but the part number might be 90386-06009 for one year....and the PNC might be the same and the part number reads 90386-09009 for another year.

 

[semlin]

thanks beno.

for the pnc above on a 1999 lx470 and 1999 uzj100 i get the same part # from toyodiy.
48811 BAR, STABILIZER, FRONT
48811‑60180 UZJ100 $303.21

edit: this uses the wrong pnc

 

[OGBeno]

thanks beno.

for the pnc above on a 1999 lx470 and 1999 uzj100 i get the same part # from toyodiy.
48811 BAR, STABILIZER, FRONT
48811 UZJ100 $303.21

Sometimes they are indeed the same...

 

[semlin]

Sometimes they are indeed the same...

yep, sorry, i wasn't arguing with you. rather i was using what you taught me to carry through on my original thought, which is that the previous poster spent $600 and several hours of labour to change his torsion bars and update his sig line for no reason that i can discern.

 

[OGBeno]

yep, sorry, i wasn't arguing with you. rather i was using what you taught me to carry through on my original thought, which is that the previous poster spent $600 and several hours of labour to change his torsion bars and update his sig line for no reason that i can discern.

Spoken like a true lawyer....

 

[hoser]

Semlin, trying to understand your post. Not sure if you are confusing "stabilizer bar" with "torsion bar" because it's a "sway bar" that really should be called an "anti-roll bar." =)

 

[semlin]

Semlin, trying to understand your post. Not sure if you are confusing "stabilizer bar" with "torsion bar" because it's a "sway bar" that really should be called an "anti-roll bar." =)

edit: ahhh, i put in the wrong pnc#. so i did, inadvertently confuse the two.