Land Cruiser 200 - ready for overlanding

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Hi Surfy, we did journey via west africa 3 years ago, morocco, western sahara, mauretania, mali, burkina faso and ghana. In fact we have mainly positive experience, Morocco: except border very close to Europe, excelent highway, friendly people, Western Sahara: boring long way in hamada (stone desert), also here starts checkpoints around all towns (fortunately not so much town on the way), Mauretania: border with bribe wanted officers, crossing from Marocco tooks abour 5 hours, you travel about 2 km via mines land of nobody across sand dunes, Mauretania is mostly sand desert, people a little bit strange but genarally no problems with them except of incredible number of checkpoints which delay you a lot , we crossed border to Mali in Nioro du Sahe, Mali: very very fiendly people including officers and police, I hope that didnt change yet after problems in north part, we crossed border to Burkina from Bandiagara (by the way Dogons land is very nice to see), Burkina is very similar like Mali, almost no checkpoints, Ghana is OK, finally english speaking country. Some photos you can find here: http://www.antech.cz/afrika/index2.htm
We did this journey with LR Discovery 3 what is definitely less reliable then LC200 but we manage it except several electronics stuck which we treated just by restart. Simply we were lucky.:)
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Thank you much for your impressions @ LevapK :)

We are now on to look on our route details - maybe someone could help us there again :)

We plan to drive through Cameroon to Congo like showed here on the map:


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I don`t even know exactly - if there is a route available..

Google Maps say no, Tracks4Africa says no, OSM say no and Garmin Worldmap says no. But that don't tell us much - because there seems most roads to be missing. Bing sees there many possible ways.

Our "plan B" will be to drive through Gabon to Congo, the Visa we should be able to get on the border, far i know.

Does someone knows something about the pink marked area? We would then drive to Loubomo - Matadi afterwards.

Surfy
 
Challenging fun trip. I suggest taking spares of filters, (always always have your own oil and fuel filters on hand) + belts, and if you have 1 or even 2 partially worn tires you can strap them to a roof rack or bull bar, they might come in handy and being worn they aren't tempting. Plan to give out lots of the pens someone mentioned, also plain wooden pencils, small notebooks, individually wrapped hard candy- the real sour ones are always a huge hit. Its amazing how much stuff like that is appreciated. I would search the web for contacts in each of the countries. The insight they can provide is valuable especially knowing someone connected in a pinch. Also look into Toy or other repair shops in advance. Line up a dealer in Europe who is willing to ship any parts you may need. Find out which of those countries are easy and which are not for receiving spare parts by air freight or delivery service. At border crossings cigarettes, canned goods, granola bars etc. are always appreciated by the authorities. I have found that you wind up so loaded with your gear that sleeping in vehicle means you have to take everything out and place it on the ground, lots of work at end of a long day plus not too secure. Large plastic rubbermaid bins makes that easier and makes border inspections faster. Sometimes guards will inspect on their own and not allow you to "lead the way" While jazzing up your rig's appearance is tempting, I think it is wiser to go the opposite route and make it look more utilitarian, old, worn etc. to attract less attention. Muddy dusty rig is preferred Good luck!!
 
Thank you Mudlover - there are several points i will consider in my plans. To get a list with phonenumbers of the embassys and repair opportunities on the way could help ;)

Others - like the pens and candys i dont know if we do us a favor with.

On our trip in Laos we also hand out candys - and are happy to see a smile on the shy kids.... But what happens with future travellers?

In some years the kids arent shy anymore - and they know that they get small gifts from tourists - and they arent lucky when you dont give them something.

I read in several blogs - that the kids throw stones in africa -when you dont give them gifts, because they are angry about. :hhmm:

And the police ask you for pens or gifts (when not asking for money) :hhmm:

We tourists have to thing about our habbits :whoops: We think we do something good - but after some years we can see - what we have done...
 
It gets cold here - time to leave!

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In 14 days we start - have now also the last Visa in our Pockets! :)

Surfy
 
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Good Luck and have fun!! It will be a great trip!

Be sure to tell us all about it when you get back.

Don't forget ... lots of pictures!!

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how difficult was it and how much time did you spend on administrative formalities like visas, carnet etc if I may ask?
 
Oh it consumed the most weekends of 1.5 Months - and also many hours in the evening - where others could watch a good movie ;)

I start planning 2 Years ago - and watch the visa stuff with one eye during the time. 2 Months bevore we planned to leave - we had started the fight with the embassies...

But now: in 8 days we leave :)

And we are still on to complete our equipement...

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The company who sold me the roofbox burned down - with my paid box - but they are able to reorder one. Thats the reason - why the building is that black. But it is nice for contrast.

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It isnt really a beautiful solution, if you ask me.. But we need the cargo space - and it has to be dust and waterproof :doh:

Surfy
 
That sounds like a really amazing trip!

You probably know this already, but don't keep all your money in your wallet. Only keep as much in there as you are prepared to lose to a border control officer/policeman/other government official. In DRC I got hitup both times I entered for not having the correct immunizations (I had all that were required, they are really good at making up new rules on the fly lol). The "penalty" was something like $10 USD and went up to the amount I had in my wallet when I opened it up. Fortunately I had been warned in advance by my Rwandan friends so it was maybe only $20 or so. Maybe hide blocks of cash in various places.

And FYI that new LC in Africa is going to look like a RR Phantom to most folks there. Hopefully the various "fees" and "penalties" won't be influenced by this.
 
Hi Chris

Did you ask after a receipt? :D When do you was there?

We plan to travel with really less cash, and to optain cash when we need em. So we will try to pay our "scams" with creditcards - and always we will ask for a receipt - i read many blogs - where the people could pass - because they dont accept creditcards :hhmm:

So we will spend our money for optaining them (ATM, Hotels, Bank, Western Union) and not for scams - we hope.

Far we have read - is the LC 200 the basic car for UN and many NGO`s - and well known on our way. So we hope to get recogniced this way - but have no idea if this is good or bad ;)

It is the european modell from 2011 - who looks exactly like that one, who was build from 2008 upwards

We will definitively report here!

Surfy
 
Matadi bridge

The bridge in Matadi is there and a breeze to cross it. Cost all of $3 or so. It is however not a border crossing, you only cross the Congo River within DRC. As far as I know the only entry into DRC from the other Congo is through Brazzaville and the ferry. Get ready for hassle, it's a 30 min ferry ride and a 3 hrs formality (if you're lucky)

I lived in DRC for 3 years and visited Matadi on the almost monthly basis. I was there most recently just a month ago. Road conditions are decent, but a bit dangerous due to the poor state of the vehicles on the road. Kinshasa-Matadi is 350km takes 5 hrs. You actually don't have to cross the bridge if you're heading to Angola. It's worth it though because the view from the opposite side of Matadi is nice.

In Kinshasa you will be on for a really hassle with the police. Not impossible though.

I love the place and it is a really fun city. Good luck and enjoy the trip!
 
Hi Chris

Did you ask after a receipt? :D When do you was there?

We plan to travel with really less cash, and to optain cash when we need em. So we will try to pay our "scams" with creditcards - and always we will ask for a receipt - i read many blogs - where the people could pass - because they dont accept creditcards :hhmm:

So we will spend our money for optaining them (ATM, Hotels, Bank, Western Union) and not for scams - we hope.

Far we have read - is the LC 200 the basic car for UN and many NGO`s - and well known on our way. So we hope to get recogniced this way - but have no idea if this is good or bad ;)

It is the european modell from 2011 - who looks exactly like that one, who was build from 2008 upwards

We will definitively report here!

Surfy

Surfy I'm definitely no expert, sounds like you have done quite a bit of good research. I have been to Africa twice, once during 2010 and once during 2011. Both times were primarily Rwanda, with time also spent in Kenya, Uganda and DRC.

In the countries I visited there were landcruisers everywhere, but none as nice as yours ;)

Your rig is awesome, and this trip sounds absolutely amazing. I'm definitely jealous, have a great time!!
 
Thank you all :)

The bridge in Matadi is there and a breeze to cross it. Cost all of $3 or so. It is however not a border crossing, you only cross the Congo River within DRC. As far as I know the only entry into DRC from the other Congo is through Brazzaville and the ferry. Get ready for hassle, it's a 30 min ferry ride and a 3 hrs formality (if you're lucky)!

I read several blogs, where the people use other ways to drive to Angola - or from Angola

There are the Cabinda - Matadi Route, or also some other small ferrys - one of them near Boko. Do you mean they all enter the DRC on an illegal way? I mean to have read- that they too get their carnet stamped - but i`m not shure ;)

I assume - that all have a multiple Entry Visa - who do it this way.

The storys about Brazza-Kinshasa are between funny, real time consuming and pretty worse :doh:

Surfy
 
DRC

Although Cabinda is part Angola it's not connected to the main country. On your map you indicated that you will be coming from north east through R Congo into Brazzaville. Then the logical crossing is the river ferry there. Continue down south into Angola does not involve touching Cabinda. You would drive from Kinshasa toward Matadi and turn South about 80km before you reach Matadi. There is also a crossing just after Matadi, but unfortunately I'm not familiar with the conditions.

I heard that Angola only issues a 7 or 10 day visa just enough to pass through the country. I met an overlanding couple here in TZ where I live. They came down pretty much the same way as you are planning and they had to race through Angola to make it. It's not a small country, roads are not the best and the time is limited.

For DRC make sure you have everything ready before hand. The fees are outrageous. They tend to steal/hide your documents saying you never gave then and charge you as if you never had them. Happened to me at my very first entry into the country with my vaccination card.

Still live the place and try to spend a few days in Kinshasa if you can. There is a nice waterfall between Kin and Matadi good for camping. Called Zongo Falls.
 
Many thanks for your notes. To talk someone who lived there is more than valuable ;)

We have collected all Visas now - and have an valid Visa for Angola, Multiple Entry valid for 2.5 months (after entering angola) :)

We have a "case binder" with colored copis of all documents. This we plan to chain to the car - so the guys can watch them outside - the original we plan only to show them in distance - to avoid such scams.

It is such a chain (more something symbolican):

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We hope that the guys dont get too angry about us - when we try it this way.

But now i have the chance to discuss it with you, who lived there :)

How do you handle it? Do you only show them your documents, and dont hand them out?

I read in another blog, that they query for the papiers of the police/border crew - and only give they papers away, when they had their papers :rolleyes: Many police guys on road blocks had no papers - and they proceed without showing any papers.

How do you did it? Which way of handling such situations - will not annoy the guys to much?

About our Route: we really had planned to leave brazza in direction loubomo and the sea - to relax after the way we have passed (when we have enough time).

Surfy
 
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it is a very fine line to walk. Not to let yourself be scammed but also not piss off a young kid on drugs with an AK in the middle of nowhere where life is considerably cheaper than in Zurich... Be careful, take care, and enjoy the trip of a lifetime!
 
DRC

It all depends on the country. In DRC I use to showed my driver's license through the closed window and lowered the window just enough to talk. Of course that pissed them off, but you need to know how much to fxxx with them. It depends on the situation and the number of them. Once I gave my license then the policeman got on the bus and left with it. I refused to move off the road and created a huge jam. By the way, when they stop you in Congo, do NOT pull over to the side of the road, just stop in the middle. That will assure that other pissed drivers apply pressure on the police too and you will be gone faster. In DRC copies are not acceptable, but it depends on the country. Here in Tanzania a certified copy of registration is fine.

You will be fine, no worries just be patient and polite. Unfortunately you will be able to communicate in French, but don't make a huge effort. The less communication the better.

What helped me in the past is to wave at them before they notice you or try to stop you. That confuses them and make you look important. You can also play the Red Cross game with your license plate, they will have no idea. Be creative and have fun. Everything is possible in Congo!
 
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Meanwhile, we are back home.

It was a wonderful time that passed quickly - but still was not short.We both travel-saturated - not oversaturated - but it was a welcome end - and we were again on our daily lives and our work.
We thought that we would need another beach-holidays after this trip (because it would be stress) - but we arrive very relaxed at home.

Nor was it to "large workload" of miles - we decided in Namibia - to go for a snifter to Botswana - and have extended the trip by a nearly quarter (additional 4 `500km).
This is probably only a good ride comfort of our travel vehicle combination also a matter of attitude.

We would tackle on such a trip again similar - and more time – would also allow to see more.

The Daily "on the move" and still have a lot of breaks - was beautiful!

Now only hope that Brummie (the Land Cruiser) does not generate much service costs - he has already suffered a bit, but fought very bravely.

Tonight I'm going to summarize and publish the first trip statistics. And many thanks to those who send us messages within our satellite Messager. It was nice to know that some “travel” with us. Not always, we were able to assign the messages to the sender, because the Delorme sent always as “4x4reisend”

Our Blog: http://transafrica2012.blogspot.com

Surfy
 
what?

gone, did it, and back already?

That was fast! I had pictured you gone for a year...

Glad you are back safe.

Will read this with great interest.


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well I read all your blog. Took a while but great fun. (well, aside from the hellish automatic english translation). Very interesting to read about your travels. I am humbled by your fortitude in just going for it. Either you made the preparation look much simpler than it really was or you really went for it with very little material comfort and preparation for technical issues with the truck. I am especially stunned at the notion that you just went through Africa with apparently much less equipment and spare parts than I take to the trails nearby, none much more than a 100 or 200 miles from civilization... I may need to reconsider my -apparently excessive- equipment and spare parts when travelling!
And you went with only one spare tire! Daring. And only one flat the whole way?
The blog did make it seem pretty easy. No harrowing experience with being stuck in mud for days or attacked by bandits on the way. No issues with running out of gas or water it seems. And steak everyday apparently. Pretty civilized.
Were there ever any situation when you were concerned about your safety?
The cruiser seems to have done very well actually. And I'm amazed at your average speeds. No idea how you could go so fast. (What is this corrugated iron that the translation refers to frequently?) Seems like you must have been flying over washboards at great speeds most of the time. A great benefit of the advanced independent suspension system in the 200 I imagine.
Congratulations!
 
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Too bad that the translation dont work better!

"corrugated iron" means washboards

It is not just the independent suspension i guess. The AHC suspension is hydraulic/oil based - and had allows us often a good pace - often a bit quicker than the locals - without to bring less comfort.
There are severall levels of washboards - some of them we was able to ride - like it is just a normal road. On bad washboard only speed helps. When it was really bad 100 km/h it feels ok - or to keep below 15 km/h. Often the road has hidden jumps - and we had some flights with our travelweight of near 4 tons - not so funny - and so there are some kilometers we just drove also below 15km/h - but not many.

Therefore we spend many days driving slowly through national parks and watching animals - our real overall travelspeed was much higher than 65 km/h i think.

But back to your other questions
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I did some offroad trips in Laos and northern Thailand - and never has to use spare tyre. When you see our weight near 4to - would you really add a 2nd spare tyre? It adds 65kg to the bill. An additional kaymar rear tyre holder also 70kg. I had a tyre repairkit with me - and had 4 tyres at home in switzerland. Therefore i cant buy this size in africa - i would had used DHL so flight in the tyres if necessary. And you can repair also mostly, and don’t have to take a new one.

Too our car is fully loaded well balanced, near 50:50 - which is perfect.

When you read everything you had read – we have killed a tyre – but we get em repaired with a tube later. Shure – without spare tyre – you start driving carefully till restocked / repair.

I`m not a mechanic. To change a tyre or replace a fuelfiltre is a challenge for me. So I don’t have to take spares with me – i`m not able to repair the car – also if I had them with me. And I had the experience in my other travels – that the local mechanics are able to fix most of the problems – and also be able to optain spare stuff. Think on our windscreen – we kills two of them. Toyota couldn’t repair it, they need 45 days for flight a new one in.
But the “grey” marked had cheap Taiwan copys of windscreens – and after 3 hours we was able to travel again.

And also when you can do a lot of mechanic stuff by yourself – your car will break when you add to much weight with spares.

Yes we got stuck. But I like that - it was much fun to winch us out of the mud.

We had 33” tyres, bigger than the local ones, had 3 difflocks, mud terrain tyres and with 285 less small tyres compared that what locals use. Equipped like that – you can handle near everything, also with 4to. We often was near to get stuck – but mostly able to get throught at the last second.

I don’t had a chance to use our ground anchor (because palms was strong enough) – and as we stuck in sand we dig us out without the maxtrax – because it was more work to get them from the roof than to dig a bit.

There was some stuff who scares us.. As we entered Congo (leaving Cameroon) we does it on some unknown really bad tracks – and a thunderstorm cames up, with heavy rain. The back of the car try to lead the way – and we drift over a long way over 2 hours. It was much fun to drive, but pretty dangerous to smash the car…. I was wet from sweating. And we also had could stay till the rain stops, and the tracks get better. Fun and dangerous stuff are mostly nearby.

Also scars us the evening, where we got discovered by the mauretan military – in the night they looked similar to bad guys, when you see a pickup with armed guys behind.

And when your car dive – the half of your windscreen is covered with water – fu… yes we was scared, also with a snorkel.

Therefore we had a fridge and a freezer – we always had good food, that’s right. But we like to do wildcamping and to cook by ourself, and to scout a good place you need daylight. Near a big village (this may have somethimes something like a restaurant) – you cant setup a hidden camp. We just got 3 times discovery by locals, what shows that we mostly did a good job ;-)

We aren’t afraid about locals – but at the evening we want to cook, eat and relax – and don’t like to be the sensation. Mostly we had no language to talk together, because no one could speak english, so there everytime a bunch of people around you – that talk – and you don’t understand them.

So it was all over – very relaxed. Sometimes there are people who wants a bribe – but with some time we was able to avoid that stuff.
Our baddest experience was in Marocco with the corrupt police officers. But there we paid the normal finet with receipt/bill – and don’t feed his pocket with the half of the amount. And bad was some border crossings, but that stuff you know before you start.

We often drive through checkpoints where the police guys try to stop us. They wave us to stop – we wave back and keep driving and smile. This saved us a lot of time. They are nice – but the discussion was mostly wasted time – they just want to chat and get a souvenir. Just two times this behavior cause some angry – once in Angola we drove on the way back – 6 hours later – and meet the same checkpoint again – they remember ^^

And in Benin they want to fine us because of driving through – but a blond girlfriend with blue eyes – can calm them down easily.

I think 40% of the checkpoints who they want to stop us – we pass with waving back.

Only in Cameroon and Congo they use nail boards on the bigger roads to stop the people – there we stop every time ;-) This happens on the big roads – on the small dirttracks they often seat near the street – and we passed them before they can react.

This worked well in Laos and northern Thailand too. But you have to look how you do it. Sometimes when they signed it very cleary – and you cant do like “I don’t see, i`m dreaming and stupid” – please stop ;-) It depends on the situation. Also when they wear more than pistols – don’t drive through!

While wildcamping we don’t feel too save. Mostly we put every stuff inside of the car – to avoid that we miss something in the morning – and to be able to start quickly if necessary.

We had also planned to be ready for “quick alert starts” – but forget that. When, then someone will knock on the door with a gun – and you better stay.

The local people where everywhere very nice and helpful – also when you try to communicate with hands and feets, and they try severall times to help –and try send us to better roads – meaning that we don’t will pass through because of the bad road condition.
But we was able to sign them, that we like that kind of stuff, we wondering if they had checked later – if they can help us out (and earn some money).
 
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