Key Question

[bcripe]

Well I hope I didnt piss too many guys off on the snorkel thread. Didnt mean too.

On my 99 TLC it came without a master key so I went back to the dealer and they put a new ECU in and gave me two keys free. I got a master and another extra. The master key has the remote lock/unlock buttons, etc. I picked up my car after hours and the keys work but the buttons do not. Any idea if that has to be programmed seperate? How do I fix it?

Also on a side note the drivers side power lock/unlock doesnt work. The button that locks all doors works on all except the drivers. I have to manually flip the lock. It does lock/unlock with the key.

I did get the repair manuals off ebay and it does have instructions on checking switch continuity. Ill try to do that this weekend. But would that make the key not work?

Any idea?

Thanks again,
BC

 

[cruiserdan]

The keyless entry buttons need to be programmed independently from the ignition transponder in the key head. You have an apple and an orange there. You are very fortunate that you did not have to spend over a thousand bucks to get a new engine ECU. The down side is that you have spent your get-out-of-jail-free card and if you lose your masters again you get to foot the whole bill. The master keys are about 225 bucks each and the ECU is well over a grand. Be sure to put a master away in a safe place so that you can access it if need be. Also remember that if you have no key the only way the vehicle will move is if it is hooked up to a towtruck.

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[bcripe]

Hi Dan, Thanks for the info. How do I program the buttons? Is it in the repair manual? I searched it and the owners manual and could not find any information.

Thanks alot,
BC

 

[cruiserdan]

The programming procedure is indeed outlined in the FSM. If you have a genuine Toyota manual it should be present. As I do not have one in my pocket at the moment (real 4WD's have a solid tube at both ends.. ) I can't point you to a specific page.


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[wantacruiser]

I don't know the exact procedure, but it involves, stepping on the break pedal a couple times, looking at the security light, flipping the lock/unlock button multiple times while the master and remote keys are in the ignition. Good luck with that. And since one of your locks is busted, I don't know if that will affect the programming, but I would assume that it wouldn't.

 

[bcripe]

Doesnt the brake pedal thing just program the key to ECU but not the locks? Anybody, please?

Thanks,
BC

 

[wantacruiser]

try sticking the original in the ignition and then flip the lock/unlock a few times. then stick the other one in the ignition and flip the lock/unlock like 10 times. then see if that works. I can't tell you as mine work, but that's what it looked like the dude was doing.

 

[mtycruiser]

The procedure is something like what wantacruiser describes, I had mine done at the dealer by the service advisor, right in the reception area, he just pulled a sheet with the procedure and did it in about one minute. Didn't charge a penny.

 

[Cruiser4UGA]

Ok here it goes.

1. Key not in ignition, drivers door open and unlocked.
2. Insert Key into igntition cylinder and pull out.
3. Within 40 secs, press lock and unlock 5 times. lock and unlock=1.
4. Close drivers door and open it.
5. Within 40 sec, press lock and unlock 5 times.
6. Insert key into ingnition cylinder
7. Turn key from lock to unlock 1 time (add mode)
8. If successful to this point doors will lock then unlock to confirm add mode.
9. Press the lock and unlock buttons on transmitter simultaneously for more than 1 sec.
10. Press any button on the transmitter.
11. If doors lock and unlock one time, success. Two times-start over.

Hope this does it for you.

 

[bcripe]

Thanks alot. I just tried it several times and it doesnt seem to work. What do you mean by turn key from lock to unlock one time? Turn the ignition on? Maybe the fact that the electric lock on the drivers side does not work has something to do with it.

Thanks again,
BC

 

[Cruiser4UGA]

I would bet if the lock does not work then the sequence will not work either. I mean turn the key from lock to ON. But do not start. I hope you have luck with it, but I am not sure since the lock does not work right.

 

[DMX84]

Dude, I think that cruiser4uga left out stepping on the accelerator? It’s very tricky, honestly, I would just take it to the dealer that installed it, and talk to the service manager/service writer about getting it programmed. Also I would bring any of the old keys that you may have, as they also will need to be reprogrammed. I watched as the service writer did mine and it took a few tries to get it to take. In my case, I had gotten new keys and needed to reprogram them (the dealer reprogrammed it for free). Another problem is the computer will only hold so many keys, and not knowing how may were programmed to begin with made the whole process a little more stressful.
You are lucky that Toyota replaced the computer for you, (I’m assuming they did it for free, because you did not complain about the cost!), as the keys alone are $200 bucks each!
If I were you, and still wanted to try this, I would park in the Toyota parking lot so when you lock out all the keys form the transponder unit and are unable to start it, you will save the towing costs!
DMX

 

[Cruiser4UGA]

Stepping on the acclerator is for programming the sentry key system, the keyless is done with the door only. I put that up from the FSM. It is tricky but it can be done. But I think that if you have a problem with your locks then maybe you should because if they are not working right, then it probably will not work.

 

[wantacruiser]

I watched the guy at Toyota do it for me, and I remember seeing him step on the brake a couple times. So I'm not exactly sure why that procedure Cruiser4UGA posted doesn't have it. I didn't have my keys cut at the time, so he was sticking in the master and then sticking in the new one. If I hadn't gotten my keys from the dealership, they would have charged like 80 bucks to do it. So if you do want the dealer to do it, next time you take your car in, just tell them that you just bought the key from their part department and they said for you to bring it over there to make sure that it can be programmed for your car. They probably will do it unknowingly and not charge you for it. Now where can we get some of those procedure papers that mtycruiser talks about?

 

[Cruiser4UGA]

Look at page DI-451. It will not attach the PDF file. Oh well I tried to help.

 

[bcripe]

Hey Thanks a bunch guys! I suspect that the inop lock is not allowing it to program. I plan to get that fixed this week then Ill try it again or just go to the dealer.

BTW, the dealer paid for everything. 2 keys, ECU (through Toyotas program) and all labor. The mid level manager told me they wouldnt pay for it, its used, it was sold as is, etc. The upper level manager told me that its not right to sell a car with such an expensive fix needed and that they would cover everything. Power Toyota here in Irvine.

BC

 

[mabrodis]

Yeah a friend of mine with a LX470 had the same experience, he bought it used, didn't have a master key, contacted Lexus, was given a letter from Lexus detailing how they would cover the charge once, how much a dealership can charge to do the procedure (2 hrs max I think it was), etc. He was pretty happy, he had owned only BMWs and Rovers before this and not one of them would have thought to help in such a way, he was (and still is) very impressed with Toy/Lexus..

 

[jjbodean1970]

that's because whoever designed the whole key and ecu system for toyota and lexus vehicles was a complete retard, and they know it

 

[NMuzj100]

Don't break the plastic fob either. I bought my cruiser with two transmitter/keys one with a big crack from being dropped. Of course that broke completely within days the remote unit inside is fine and the key is fine. The only part broken is the outer case. Toyota does not sell just the case only a $200 complete key. The case probably costs $.25 to make. I would be happy to pay $10 or so for it but the thing is weakly designed and they have no parts solution. The dealer parts guy said he had seen the same problem before and was sorry not to have the part.

 

[3rdcruiser]

Iv'e followed this thread for awhile since I needed to get another master key. I found one on Ebay and bought it for $80. I had it cut and tried to program the immobilizer function. No problem - starts perfectly. I tried to follow the following procedure to enable the remote locks:


1. Key not in ignition, drivers door open and unlocked.
2. Insert Key into igntition cylinder and pull out.
3. Within 40 secs, press lock and unlock 5 times. lock and unlock=1.
4. Close drivers door and open it.
5. Within 40 sec, press lock and unlock 5 times.
6. Insert key into ingnition cylinder
7. Turn key from lock to unlock 1 time (add mode)
8. If successful to this point doors will lock then unlock to confirm add mode.
9. Press the lock and unlock buttons on transmitter simultaneously for more than 1 sec.
10. Press any button on the transmitter.
11. If doors lock and unlock one time, success. Two times-start over.


Every time on step 11 it locks twice indicating it failed to be programmed.

These directions do not indcate more than one master key - is the original needed?
Do you need to erase the code on the original to program multiple masters?
Any one know what I'm missing?