Kaymar 1 Civic 0

[cruiserdan]

On my way home from the museum this evening I got hit from behind by a Civic. Not the young lady's fault really because she was cut off and forced into me.
The icing on the cake was "I'm sooo sorry, your poor Jeep!". I let that one go because she was pretty shook up....

Honda:

Kaymar:

 

[AirheadNut]

Man! I'd better be careful where I drive! People are out to get 70-series drivers, thats the second one in a week!

 

[Gun Runner 5]

On my way home from the museum this evening I got hit from behind by a Civic. Not the young lady's fault really because she was cut off and forced into me.
The icing on the cake was "I'm sooo sorry, your poor Jeep!". I let that one go because she was pretty shook up....

Honda:

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Kaymar:
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It could have been worse. She could have said "I'm sooo sorry, your poor Land Rover".

 

[cruiserdan]

 

[lcwizard]

Heavy bumpers are one of your best investments. A weak bumper will deform. That passes to the frame and body. A bumper should never give in a collision....unless it's punishment

So much for the crumple zone

 

[cruiserdan]

If that Kaymar was not there I would be out a tail lamp and the whole corner of the quarter panel, on a vehicle with almost unobtainable parts.

The height difference helped as well.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

I can recommend a good law firm if you are injured.

 

[Douglas S]

Heavy bumpers are one of your best investments. A weak bumper will deform. That passes to the frame and body. A bumper should never give in a collision....unless it's punishment

So much for the crumple zone

A bumper deforming reduces the transfer of force to the frame and to the occupants.

 

[lcwizard]

A bumper deforming reduces the transfer of force to the frame and to the occupants.

that all works well in theory between two objects of similar mass and strength. Today's cars are built like cardboard boxes and Land Cruisers like bricks.
In the event of a crash I prefer being in a 5000 lb brick rather than a 2000 lb box. Your 5000 lb brick will live to drive again tomorrow.

 

[Delancy]

5000 lb brick

2000 lb box.

Note the lack of bumper on the brick.....

 

[lcwizard]

Just think what the cardboard box would've looked like if you had the Kaymar on the brick. I'd prefer to not have the body shop bill for the box
I know the highway safety administration would love every vehicle to be a a rolling sponge but I still prefer a full solid frame to a unibody and a lot of plastic. In thirty years of working on cruisers, fixing broken parts from wheeling, crashes and what ever, the full frame vehicles will stand up to a lot more abuse. Collisions at 60 mph and higher are not the majority. Most are "fender benders". A 10~20 mph crash with good bumper means a rattle can repair job. To a unibody like a Cherokee, with no protection, and the insurance may total it. When you smack a deer at 60
and the extent of your repairs is a high pressure car wash and not a new grill, bumper and headlight assembly, you appreciate a good bumper

 

[Delancy]

Expo-One, but similar story as the Kaymar, as it didn't scratch the PC.

Funny thing was, it didn't register that I'd even been hit, until the BMW's driver got out of the car and walked towards in the side view.

Just think what the cardboard box would've looked like....

I'm more appreciative not knowing what the pine box may have looked like in less than a Cruiser....

Granted, I'd prefer not roll testing the vintage steed in the stable, or I might be counting grains.

First on the scene were frantic, assuming they were walking up to carnage.......which I considered it as, since my coffee spilled all over the freshly recovered headliner.

 

[lcwizard]

Expo-One, but similar story as the Kaymar, as it didn't scratch the PC.

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Funny thing was, it didn't register that I'd even been hit, until the BMW's driver got out of the car and walked towards in the side view.



I'm more appreciative not knowing what the pine box may have looked like in less than a Cruiser....

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Granted, I'd prefer not roll testing the vintage steed in the stable, or I might be counting grains.

First on the scene were frantic, assuming they were walking up to carnage.......which I considered it as, since my coffee spilled all over the freshly recovered headliner.

Been there on both, You've experienced the two most common auto accidents, although I'm not sure the highway Safety guys add off
roading incidents to their reports. The order of frequency is rear end collisions followed by single car accidents, T-bones, clipping while merging or changing lanes , low speed collisions under 10 mph such as parking related bumps and fender benders.
I've been rear ended twice by intoxicated individuals and once by a texter. The point of having a good bumper is you won't need to shell out that 1000.00 deductible every time an errant Ford Focus bumps makes contact. With some lift, a good set off sliders does the same for the doors

 

[61Mk+]

Sometimes i wonder if i went a little too far with the size and heft of my bumpers, sidesteps/skidplates/stoneguards, and what-not, i pay for it in fuel consumption, weight, etc. Then i see some of the pictures here and i think, 'overkill?... naaaaa; piece of mind!'.

 

[Delancy]

I'm not sure the highway Safety guys add off
roading incidents to their reports.

Rolled my 80 at/approaching highway speeds, entering an interstate.

Wouldn't want to do that again in ANY of the vintage steed in the stable, since walking away wouldn't have happened.

I don't think too many vehicles could've sustained like the 80, with no pillar was left uncrushed.

Insurance adjuster for the girl that hit me inspected today and couldn't believe the relatively little damage to the ass end of the 73, after seeing the other vehicle, first, the damage much more than cosmetic in nature.

Modern safety regulations, coupled with fuel economy concerns will be paid for, if not at the pump, in insurance premiums if minor rear endings can total high dollar new cars.

 

[Tapage]

Years ago I was involved in a frontal collision with a Nativa / Montero Sport and Tencha .. about 20 mph give or take both vehicles .. from the impact my drive train move forward and fan hit my rad .. ( not enough to make it leak but enough to make a mark ) my bumper take the punishment but manage to sightly bend my frame horns .. I was still able to drive her home ..

the nativa was towed away and was totaled down the road .. I'm in the same boat as most of us, preferring to drive in a brick than an sponge .. even tho, I sold one of the 80 at home to be replaced for a fancy " secure " modern vehicle for wife and kid ..