JIS (Japanese Industry Standard) - Why am I just Now Learning?!? (1 Viewer)

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HburgEagle

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Hey guys

I'm writing this as a PSA and what feels like a DUH moment for me. I've had my 100 since 2019 and my wife drives a 200 (LX570) we got in 2020. What's worse is I've had multiple Toyota vehicles prior to that and I had a Suzuki Samurai from the time I was about 17 up until just a few years ago that basically taught me how to work on vehicles. Now that I'm in my 40s and I'm just now discovering this is just astounding to me. My wife got me a new toolbox for Christmas and I was in the market for a fresh set of quality screwdrivers which lead me to this discovery.

For those that wonder what in the world I'm rambling about, pretty much anything manufactured in Japan uses tools and fasteners that follow Japanese Industry Standards for size and fitment. What got my attention in particular is the JIS screwdrivers and screws. Which is basically their version of the Phillips but it has sharper angles and edges to prevent "cam out".

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After tumbling down the rabbit hole upon this discovery, I searched here and didn't come up with much. @cruiserpatch does list a screwdriver set here: Cruiser Patch 100 Series Products Thread - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/cruiser-patch-100-series-products-thread.1333933/ but I wanted a matching set of both JIS and slotted (flathead).

I ended up ordering these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085M3QM5X?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

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Vessel is one of the oldest tooI makers in Japan and I wanted JIS screwdrivers that were actually made in Japan. I got them in today and they are excellent quality and I'm looking forward to using them. They do seem to fit some Japanese made screws I had laying around better than my old #2 Phillips and they seem to fit just regular Phillips screws better too. I did my best to get a picture comparing the new Vessel "Phillips" to my old and very well used, Craftsman Professional I've had in service since the 90s.

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Anyway, this may be common knowledge and I'm just late to the party but I hope this helps someone with tool choices in the future. I've always believed in having quality hand tools and having the right tool for the job if at all possible.

Cheers
 
not too long ago, I tried to buy a JIS 1/4" "Phillips" bit set and was dismayed to see that there were few available on Amazon and rather expensive at that. No reason that should be the case. Plus, it seems that some vendors are playing loose about what is and what is not a true JIS bit... Still I got some but am not yet entirely sure I got the real thing TBH.
 
not too long ago, I tried to buy a JIS 1/4" "Phillips" bit set and was dismayed to see that there were few available on Amazon and rather expensive at that. No reason that should be the case. Plus, it seems that some vendors are playing loose about what is and what is not a true JIS bit... Still I got some but am not yet entirely sure I got the real thing TBH.

This was a big reason I wanted a Japanese brand that was made in Japan. McMaster Carr sells sets that appeared to be good quality. A bit set may be the next thing a get.
 
 
KTC is the way to go
 
I am just learning of these special screws/screwdrivers as well.. All these years.
 
We stock a variety of OEM JIS drivers- some made for Toyota by Vessel.

See some examples here: Search: 8 results found for "jis" - https://www.cruiserpatch.com/search?q=jis

Full disclosure, I personally use Vessel’s JIS with Jawsfit technology but have not noticed any significant difference in use over the standard versions made for Toyota.

The right tool really does make the difference.

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We stock a variety of OEM JIS drivers- some made for Toyota by Vessel.

See some examples here: Search: 8 results found for "jis" - https://www.cruiserpatch.com/search?q=jis

Full disclosure, I personally use Vessel’s JIS with Jawsfit technology but have not noticed any significant difference in use over the standard versions made for Toyota.

The right tool really does make the difference.

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Thinking about putting together a good tool roll to keep in my truck using the original FJ40 tool kits as a guide with a modern twist. That switchable JIS/Slotted driver looks like a perfect addition.

Thanks!
 
^ I got one for free!



(Just needed to buy a 100 with it....)
 
Today I was working on my japanese bike using JIS #2 bits. I remembered this thread so I went and got a regular US Phillips screwdriver instead to remind myself what the difference feels like. Well, night and day, unsurprisingly! Whereas the JIS bit felt really tight in the screwhead with no play whatsoever, the Phillips felt sloppy. I could set the screw on the JIS bit and it would hang there even upside down whereas it would just fall off the Phillips bit.

Nothing new, of course, but interesting to see the difference.
 
vessel tools have been discussed in the 40 section at times over the years. Glad to have some of my own.
 
Need a bit that works in one of these. I found some on Amazon but they were really expensive and
I’m not sure they are actual JIS. Very frustrating
 
^ went through the same tribulation but found something that I think is OK. PM me if you want info.
 

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