ITM Lifters

[TOOMANYCRUISERS]

Any one use the ITM 056-5025 lifters in their 2F build? From the stock photos the ITM lifters look like they are from the same manufacturer as the AT6001 Sealed Power lifter.
I'm just getting parts collected to put her back together. I have never used any engine part marketed by ITM and figures this was a good place to ask..

Thanks in advance for your help..

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

have your toyota lifters ground or buy new and have ground. I am running ITM pistons, but would rather not have..

 

[Spike Strip]

Dunno anything about the ITM, other than they're Chinese. For a few bux difference, I'd go with the SP, if they're still American-made.

When you say they look the same, are you referring to the stock photo they all seem to use for a 2F lifter ?

 

[OGBeno]

These are available new from Toyota.

 

[RockDoc]

Cheap to have the Toyota ones resurfaced. I'm sure someone can give you an idea of current costs, I think it was well under $200 for both a cam regrind and lifter resurfacing when I sent mine to Delta 6 years ago. I wouldn’t touch aftermarket lifters after reading the luck some have had.

 

[rkymtnflyfisher]

I had my cam reground and lifters to match at Delta for under $200 as well, shipped round trip.

 

[TOOMANYCRUISERS]

Thanks to all that posted.

Here's a little history of this FJ-60. I had 2 ( 1 too many cruisers) now only have 1.

I bought the original 1 owner FJ-60 from a close family friend, having only had 130K on the clock and showing almost 0 internal wear, but they had a HG failure back in 1999. They deftly fixed it but it suffered a frozen oil pump during a drawn out repair process. Sheared the dizzy drive gear pin immediately and they never got it running nor did they get the residual moisture out of the engine. The new oil filter on it, never saw oil. The PO gave up and sadley passed away soon after. It sat until 2015 when I bought it and found the issues. The moisture sitting as you could guess had its way over the 15 idle years with the internal surfaces and the cam and lifters were pitted beyond use. stock bores still had well defined hone hatch even at the top of the ring travel.

I decided to bring it back to life and installed a OEM 5 speed and resealed the like new xfer case. Getting real close to building it back up.

Stock photos of the SP and ITM lifters and close evaluation of tool marks and manufacturing processes used show them to be exact. The stock photos come from the manufacturers own sites

I wouldn’t touch aftermarket lifters after reading the luck some have had.

This is what I was hoping to hear in detail when I posted. Hope some can post the tragedy in detail.

I don't do regrinds for cams so a lifter is also out of the question. I will buy OEM is some one can define the issues they had with ITM lifters. I know delta, they can be touch and go on IH cams so I work around regrinds period.

I have a new Melling (CWC blank) cam and need to decide on lifters. If the lifters have good hardness numbers, hardness depth and the correct crown to match the cam lobe, they should survive bedding in. Then the wear should be low if treated right and last longer than I will be alive.. Well almost.

A couple of pix as I rolled it into my shop.

 

[RockDoc]

If you search here for "mushroomed lifters" you see a number of posts from lehiguy about lifters he got from MAF destroying themselves and his cam. There are a few posts from others that come up too, but I didn't check to see what's in them, as it was his story I remember.

 

[RockDoc]

Another thread, this one about crappy ones CCOT was carrying.
lifter woes

Maybe Sealed Power and/or ITM are decent, but I wouldn't risk it without input from one of the guys with a lot of rebuild knowledge (FJ40Jim, Mark or other Mark, ...) I believe I've heard bad things about the ITM cam gear..... from the linked thread, it looks like Joint Fuji is Mr. T's supplier for lifters.

 

[fj40ingkc]

Just received our ITM pistons, Rock Auto purchase through JT outfiters in their 2F rebuild kit. pistons were 3 thousands out from the skirt (spec'd correct at standard) to the main body or middle of the piston. Disapointing. this would mean the sleeves would have to be oversize machined, out of standard spec, in order to fit the out of spec body of piston, effectively making the Skirts (stabilizing) not work. needless buying toyota after all... which after rings is 900+$.... ugh

anyone else have this issue? -max