^^ Agree with most of those. Your 04 has the A343f not the A750f found on 03+ V8 4R's and 05+ V6's.
Isn't a 100 LC just a bigger and heavier 4Runner?
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It's very expensive to get a completely new motor certified for sale in the US, Toyota doesn't currently service diesels in the US and in the US market diesels have traditionally had a relatively limited appeal (e.g. negative perception, diesel fuel premium, additional tariffs?, etc.).
Not to mention, the current 1VD used in the 200 has about half the HP and Torque required to compete with the spec-sheets of the Big 3's full-size diesel monsters... i.e. you very well could see a Tundra w/ a diesel option, but it will be a work truck diesel from Hino rather than the "world vehicle" or "expedition rig" 1VD diesel.
Who knows, maybe the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel will be such a hit that Toyota can finally justify importing the diesel Landcruiser. Of course if the Jeep is a hit, Toyota will probably just stick one of their euro passenger car diesels in a Highlander and go for the volume play.
THe last gen Grand used the excellent mercedez diesels and they couldn't give them away. It took Jeep two years with offering heavy discounts to finally sell them all. Jeep even makes the wrangler with diesels but for export only. The GL and ML mercedez with diesels are popular though. While neat, to me, the cost of diesel and the realtively good mileage out of modern gas motors makes the diesels kind of pointless.
A couple years ago we had a huge snow, and a plow truck got stuck down my road. I drove the LC through the deep snow, turned around, and snatched him out, twice. Then I jumped in the 4R to head to work, and got stuck barely out of my driveway, couldn't even rock it. I think it was mostly the lack of ground clearance, dragging frame in wet snow.
On the 4R forums V8 drivers occasionally punch their engine mounts through the frame while offroading. I assume the frame is thinner-walled, I've never heard of that on the LC.
My LC is a luxury tank, remarkably smooth, comfortable, quiet, safe, capable. I switched to a 4R for myself because it is the next best thing for safe highway cruising in snow country, but a lot cheaper, I paid less than half as much for the same year 4R. It is a big, rugged wagon, not luxurious but fairly refined.
I've looked at used LCs lately, I can't justify the price anymore, a 4R will have to do when the 100 gets old.
On the 4R forums V8 drivers occasionally punch their engine mounts through the frame while offroading. I assume the frame is thinner-walled, I've never heard of that on the LC.
My LC is a luxury tank, remarkably smooth, comfortable, quiet, safe, capable. I switched to a 4R for myself because it is the next best thing for safe highway cruising in snow country, but a lot cheaper, I paid less than half as much for the same year 4R. It is a big, rugged wagon, not luxurious but fairly refined.
I've looked at used LCs lately, I can't justify the price anymore, a 4R will have to do when the 100 gets old.
It has only been on V6's IIRC.
Yeah, I thought is was the V6's, too.
Just returned from a 3-day family vacation road trip in the LX. I was reminded, and missed, the awesome door panel water bottle storage that my 4th gen 4Runner has. Holds one water bottle in each front door, and two water bottles in each rear door. The 100 holds...zero.
Oh yeah, it does have those crappy "drink holder" things tho. Those really suck, especially in the rear.
Just returned from a 3-day family vacation road trip in the LX. I was reminded, and missed, the awesome door panel water bottle storage that my 4th gen 4Runner has. Holds one water bottle in each front door, and two water bottles in each rear door. The 100 holds...zero.
Oh yeah, it does have those crappy "drink holder" things tho. Those really suck, especially in the rear.
Yeah, I thought is was the V6's, too.
Just returned from a 3-day family vacation road trip in the LX. I was reminded, and missed, the awesome door panel water bottle storage that my 4th gen 4Runner has. Holds one water bottle in each front door, and two water bottles in each rear door. The 100 holds...zero.
The 4unner is a chick car and soccermom transport and needs the massive beverage holders.
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Yeah, I thought is was the V6's, too.
Just returned from a 3-day family vacation road trip in the LX. I was reminded, and missed, the awesome door panel water bottle storage that my 4th gen 4Runner has. Holds one water bottle in each front door, and two water bottles in each rear door. The 100 holds...zero.
Wow really? Water bottle storage.
I really liked our old 95 4runner. The only thing I disliked about it was the horrible seating position. It felt like I was lying down on the ground and the legroom wasn't the best either. I switched to a 95 Nissan Pathfinder and found the seating position much, much better.
The Pathfinder was a great vehicle very comparable with the 4 runner except the frame began to rust out like crazy on the Nissan so I sold it.
The 100 series is still the best by far. You can go offroad over some serious terrain like nothing. It can soak up bumps offroad without even breaking a sweat. In my opinion it's one of the most refined offroad vehicles ever made. I'm never getting rid of mine and I want another one!
The Pathfinder was a great vehicle very comparable with the 4 runner except the frame began to rust out like crazy on the Nissan so I sold it.
The 100 series is still the best by far. You can go offroad over some serious terrain like nothing. It can soak up bumps offroad without even breaking a sweat. In my opinion it's one of the most refined offroad vehicles ever made. I'm never getting rid of mine and I want another one!
THe last gen Grand used the excellent mercedez diesels and they couldn't give them away. It took Jeep two years with offering heavy discounts to finally sell them all. Jeep even makes the wrangler with diesels but for export only. The GL and ML mercedez with diesels are popular though. While neat, to me, the cost of diesel and the realtively good mileage out of modern gas motors makes the diesels kind of pointless.
Wow, I had forgotten about Jeep's recent foray into diesels... an acquaintance of mine from four or so years ago owned a Liberty diesel.
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That's A bit of a surprise considering How long the Land Cruiser brake pads last and how well it brakes.
The difference is that when cars such as the lc, defenders, g500's are developed they have a much higher targeted service life in severe conditions. But the truth is most modern cars will take you into the remotest areas you want to go in relative comfort. Can't go wrong with any of them. Check out expeditionportal for a more unbiased response. My favorite would be my g500 if I could only have one. But it's more of a novelty/image/ sentimental based decision, tbh. And seeing how your buddy owns a defender, he more than likely holds a high priority to novelty as well.
Totally agree with your post. I feel the same way. Only problem with the G is the cost to keep it on the road when the warranty is up. I use to live in Maui and Oprah has a estate there. She owns several G's for guests and employees to drive. I was talking to the service manager about them and he said these G's were a major revenue stream for the dealership. They have replaced about every electrical component several times. The mechanical parts hold up well.
Nice! I honeymooned on Hana Maui right next to her beach? The g's are no toyotas that's for sure. But luckily the platform has been unchanged for so long there is a cheap solution for everything with a great support site like mud. Most of the electrical issues were found in the 02-04 models, but even then the typical issues were the door lock actuators and window regs that would cost 500 a piece for parts alone from the dealer. The drivetrain has proven to be bulletproof. And the car is easy to work on do its old roots
I think Oprah's were in this age range.
I don't believe you do with your recent posts about 100k mileage cruisers.
I like to hear testimonials from owners of high mile 100's. makes me feel good about my decisions
