The winch mounts to the subframe and the bumper goes over it.
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I installed the KM2 315 and I'm verry happy with the results.
They will rub in front with little effort offroad, but if you stay within roads they will perfrom very well with stock lift and a bumper.
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The Ironman 4" Lift has been shipped to my local vendor, I'm just waiting on delivery, probably tuesday.![]()

This has been discussed in this forum before, but to summarize, crumple zones are specifically designed in things to absorb the shock of hitting something. Bumpers need to crumple or the shock will be transferred into the frame and that's bad because it could then bend. A bent bumper is better than a bent frame.