Talked to the owner of this IG for a while today at the bike riding place and got the full tour. He's had it for 2 weeks. 2,000 miles already. This car is the real deal.
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what did they do to the frame?
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Talked to the owner of this IG for a while today at the bike riding place and got the full tour. He's had it for 2 weeks. 2,000 miles already. This car is the real deal.
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Red painted frame is a factory option.what did they do to the frame?
One of the features of this vehicle that appealed to me the most is that it's one of the only factory triple locked trucks in the NA market. So totally getting that option. And coming from a 100 Series I am well used to lack of front articulation. LOL. It's a great rig from what I can see and torn on whether its a suitable replacement for my Hundy or if I should keep both, as I LOVE my Hundy. Funny thing is they have about the same amount of creature comforts with the Hundy having a bit more with the electric seats, rear climate control, and more than 2 cup holders. LOL.From all the reviews I've seen, you definitely need to get the Ineos with lockers if you'll be offroading with it. The TC system seems to be in it's infancy and coupled with the limited front articulation, it'll be a limiting factor.
The Wrangler has an RTI score of 532 (701 with disconnected sway bar).From all the reviews I've seen, you definitely need to get the Ineos with lockers if you'll be offroading with it. The TC system seems to be in it's infancy and coupled with the limited front articulation, it'll be a limiting factor.
The Wrangler has an RTI score of 532 (701 with disconnected sway bar).
The Grenadier is 585 with sway bar. I'm sure Apex or someone will make them soon, and Jeep owners made their own for years pulling two pins when offroad. I'm sure the Grenadier will have articulation to space once that is sorted out. It is nice that it doesn't have all the nannies and crap that most of us that offroad a lot don't use anyway (at least on our rigs with lockers).
I'd like to see a bit lower gearing for traversing up and down steeps, and a sway bar disconnect. I'm sure there will be minor refresh and updates that improve on some of this stuff.
My biggest disappointment was they initially said they'd have repair shops everywhere using Bosch shops. I understand why that changed, have to incentivize dealers with exclusivity on repairs, but with my closest dealers 4 and 6 hours away, warranty work would be a huge PITA that I simply don't have time for, especially on a brand new model that may have a few bugs to work out.
I'll still get one eventually, and hopefully it has some updates. Even though I canceled and got a refund months ago, Ineos is still building mine, it is currently in production with a Q1 delivery.
My complaints are the opposite. I wanted even fewer comforts and nannies. For safety they had to add a lot of the ADAS crap. I would have preferred manual gauges, manual transmission and a replaceable stereo. But in the current market, it is the closest you can get to to an old school 4x4 feel.Totally understand, that is a solid drive for dealer support. Luckily I am 40 minute drive from the Irvine, CA shop or 40 to San Diego shop. So no issues there. The aftermarket has already been blowing up, so guaranteed there is going to be modifications available for this rig that people will jump on. I was shocked they didn't do a sway disconnect TBH, but maybe another moving part that can break in their eyes.
Test drove one 2 times and had a visit to the dealer to mull things over. Have an order in for Q1 delivery, but we will see what happens. Funny is all of the small stuff people complain about already exist in my 100 series. Horrible cup holders, nowhere to put anything besides the center console, and doors. basic HVAC controls, etc. So feel like it will be an easy transition. LOL.
I agree. A manual transmission would have been awesome. I honestly think this will be the closest thing we will get to a rugged old school 4x4 in the U.S.My complaints are the opposite. I wanted even fewer comforts and nannies. For safety they had to add a lot of the ADAS crap. I would have preferred manual gauges, manual transmission and a replaceable stereo. But in the current market, it is the closest you can get to to an old school 4x4 feel.
The 4x4 Squared, bought or replicated aftermarket, are amazing and definitely something I would consider as an addition to the 200. Or a Braptor or Grenadier if it can fit bigger tires on them in the future. Fortunately I am in no rush, with plenty of time to wait and see.Yep. Figured I’d see one here. Also saw a G wagon 4x4 squared and a nice green TRD sequoia View attachment 3522803
I would assume a Gsquared or jsut Any version of a 550 with portals would be a better choice (except for cost) - proven platform, good dealer network, much better clearance etc.The 4x4 Squared, bought or replicated aftermarket, are amazing and definitely something I would consider as an addition to the 200. Or a Braptor or Grenadier if it can fit bigger tires on them in the future. Fortunately I am in no rush, with plenty of time to wait and see.
Except the G Squared looks ridiculous, is way over priced for its true capabilities, and is unusable anywhere but rodeo drive. It is not a serious vehicle. My now-sold G65 was not much better but never attempted to be. I would drive my beat up, 450k mile 100 over a G Squared.I would assume a Gsquared or jsut Any version of a 550 with portals would be a better choice (except for cost) - proven platform, good dealer network, much better clearance etc.
Agree on the concern over an aging BMW drive train. I fully understand that this model of engine is worldwide so parts shouldn't be too hard to come by. No more so than Domestic U.S. trucks in some regions of the world if intending to do South America, etc. Small bits might be a challenge still.Except the G Squared looks ridiculous, is way over priced for its true capabilities, and is unusable anywhere but rodeo drive. It is not a serious vehicle. My now-sold G65 was not much better but never attempted to be. I would drive my beat up, 450k mile 100 over a G Squared.
Time will tell about the Ineos. I am not sure what use it is once it gets some miles on it and starts to experience typical BMW issues. I certainly wouldn’t take one to Baja or Central America if I ever thought it may need servicing during the trip.
My daughter has a Grenadier and I have driven it several times and have spent 3 hours on the interstate in it. I like the looks, power train and how it drives around town. Hers has some electrical gremlins but they seem to be associated with car play which I don't use so I have never had an issue with her Grenadier.After wheeling nothing but Toyotas since the late 80s, I have switched. When Toyota discontinued the 200 in 2021, I went looking for something else and the Grenadier checked all the boxes. I have had my Grenadier for two weeks now with no regrets. The aftermarket development is exciting and will soon be on par with Toyota offerings. I have no faith in the new Toyota platforms and reject their new philosophy.
I think black looks great Grenadiers.I love mine. I still love my 200, as well
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Mine is greenI think black looks great Grenadiers.