I still love my '16 4Runner so...

[Swampmonger]

Buy car, drive home on temp tags, the dealer sends the documents to the DMV by your house, register car in home state, pay taxes (weep a little) .

That was the process when I bought my 200 from KC.

Unfortunately, this is California I'm dealing with. They're going to get their money. The dealer says he can't let me have the car without charging me CA state tax. He thinks I can apply for a refund once I get back to AZ, but that's a lot of money and even if he's right I'm sure it will take CA months to actually refund the money.

I'm going to call AZDOT and CA DMV today to get the specifics.

 

[EPUro2019]

Buy car, drive home on temp tags, the dealer sends the documents to the DMV by your house, register car in home state, pay taxes (weep a little) .

That was the process when I bought my 200 from KC.

Mine was similar. I "purchased" in AZ. They delivered out of state so that I didn't have to pay taxes in az. They included temporary tags. Only possible was getting the vehicle registered in Texas. It took a little work as the dealer didn't send the stuff in. I had to track down a copy of the title. For me totally worth the effort as I only had to pay Texas taxes at 6.25 vs 8.3 in az. It can be done but is a bit more complicated

 

[Redbull]

Tell your dealer they are being unreasonable. Not everyone knows that the 200 series is one of the best cars on the road and you are paying big money for a new one - the ball is in your court.

Either tell them to pay the AZ tax and let you take delivery or find it somewhere else. Best of luck.



EDIT:

23 Magnetic Gray 2016's for sale nationwide.

57 Magnetic Gray 2017's for sale nationwide. I'm sure you can find a delivery mileage new truck for a good deal.

 

[EPUro2019]

I had to sign a document stating I'm not an az resident. Az is easy. Ca probably not so much

 

[TonyP]

Unfortunately, this is California I'm dealing with. They're going to get their money. The dealer says he can't let me have the car without charging me CA state tax. He thinks I can apply for a refund once I get back to AZ, but that's a lot of money and even if he's right I'm sure it will take CA months to actually refund the money.

I'm going to call AZDOT and CA DMV today to get the specifics.

Sales tax is paid in the state it's registered, not bought. I've bought several vehicles out of state (to include California) and that's how it works. The salesman is a boob. For that alone I'd back out of the deal.

 

[RS6tofj80]

some counties have a tax for a purhcase but I don't think any state does as long as you sign the waiver.... I bough my E63 in AZ and they hit me for 1.5% for the county tax IIRC ......

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[TexAZ]

I bought a truck in Texas and drove home to AZ. Dealer in texas charged sales tax for the state and county...DMV figured it out and I got a check back from the dealer. I paid taxes in AZ and they sent money to texas. very odd deal, but super easy for me.
A couple years ago I bought the wife a ford in LA. They gave us a one trip pass. she got pulled over a couple days later and threatened with impounding the car and jail time.. (d1c# cop). It took 4 months and numerous trips to dmv and getting the bank on the phone while I was there to get registration. when I sold the car, it came with a cali title.

In AZ, you must have the title to register the car. CA and AZ have electronic titles. Before you get too far, ask the dealer if they will give you a paper title. if so, take it to AZ dmv, register and send title to bank funding loan. if not, Maybe if the bank financing the deal will work with you, they can request the title and send it to AZ dmv. At which point you will pay AZ sales tax.
probably much better than cali taxes. Generally the whole thing was a mess.

 

[TonyP]

CA and AZ have electronic titles.

This must be somewhat new as this BMW I bought from Sacramento last year had a paper title.

Either way, any dealer/salesman should know the process for selling a vehicle out of state. That being, not paying taxes twice. But then again this is broke ass California, so who knows?

 

[TexAZ]

I'm 0 for 2 with dealers knowing how to sell a vehicle out of state.
Planet ford in Houston, admitted they weren't sure and over charged to be safe. And gave a refund when corrected by AZ DMV.
Autonation Ford in Valecia acted like they knew what they were doing and sent us home with a useless piece of paper. Then wouldn't return phone calls, emails, or flat out said the finance guy didn't work there! Total craptastic service.

 

[blatant]

Find one of the above mentioned by @Redbull, surely one or two of them exist at an Carmax or Autonation. I believe they'll transfer them dealer to dealer for no fee, or pennies. Perhaps a dealer swap?

A $90k Toyota is over looked by just about everyone that walks in the dealer door, the minute they get a whiff of the window sticker. I'm surprised the dealer isn't more willing to figure it out.

 

[blatant]

Thanks, guys. If I get an LC I'll definitely check out the group. We're not much into offroading for the sake of offroading, but we do spend lots of time in Crown King (never done the back way), Senator Hwy, and the Mogollon Rim Road.

The AZ- Copper State Cruisers group is not just a bunch of rock crawlers, They do runs every month that are hosted and attended by very experienced members with an immense knowledge of LC's, both new and old.

Most of the Land Cruisers you'll run across have mods that make sense which are rather tasteful and well thought out. I would say while some have vehicles capable of going over "rocks," most folks lean toward the side of exploring, over landing, camping, trail riding and general family outtings etc.

Really the group excels in getting of the beaten path to a relaxing end result. Lately the monthly runs have turned into a two part ordeal, the run and then the post run, which involves setting up camp. (with a full pot luck and then some)

If nothing else, once you get sorted, regardless of which Toyota you purchase, check out the monthly meet, you note that there are a lot of stock vehicle next to well equipped ones.

 

[Eisbaer]

I negotiated the pricing over the phone on a Friday night and took the first Saturday morning flight from Seattle to LA to pick up my LC. I was planning on driving back on Temp Tags.... But I was given the same story. The dealer could not give me temp tags unless I paid tax. I spent a few hours researching reciprocal sales tax agreements and phoned local Seattle DOL offices. I could not get a firm answer, and I did not have any Tax Accountants on speed dial. One office told me I could get credit, another told me I had to prove the dealer was transferring the tax money to WA. Not wanting to take a $6K+ gamble I shipped it back. Booked a flight back to Seattle, with the dealers promise they would load it on the truck. Monday morning I called various shippers. I also called @beno to order the trailer plug was referred to Summit Auto Transport in Denver. Once I mentioned mud and Landcruiser, I was in a whole different realm of customer service and price range. I knew my truck would be in good hands. As mentioned above: 1) don't forget to leave CA with the paper title. I had to wait another 2 weeks before the dealership sent the title it to the local DOL office. 2) create an account on the Toyota website and enter VIN numbers to research ones you are interested in. I lot faster then phoning dealership's if they did not put the carfax or colors in the ads. Good luck.

 

[TonyP]

What about getting a temporary moving permit from the DMV? I had one when I bought my Tundra in WA, drove it to Nevada, got a new temp tag drove to Utah.

 

[fjfj60]

Couldn't you take a license plate off your "old" car and put it on the land cruiser? Tell the Ca dealer you don't need their temp tag and drive on home. I know in my home state you have a 30 day grace period to register the new vehicle. As long as you have the new vehicle insured and are on valid tags you are good to go.

 

[OverLand Cruisers]

Couldn't you take a license plate off your "old" car and put it on the land cruiser? Tell the Ca dealer you don't need their temp tag and drive on home. I know in my home state you have a 30 day grace period to register the new vehicle. As long as you have the new vehicle insured and are on valid tags you are good to go.

In AZ this is illegal, the same as a fictitious plate. Even though the plate belongs to the registered owner it is assigned to the vehicle, to put it on anything else is a no-go.
You can easily get a paper 3 day transport plate online from Service AZ (MVD). The transport plates are technically for in-state use only but most guys wouldn't jam anyone up for that if their story was legit.

 

[TonyP]

Pretty sure it's illegal everywhere. That's why temp tags are a thing.

 

[NCMTNS]

Unfortunately, this is California I'm dealing with. They're going to get their money. The dealer says he can't let me have the car without charging me CA state tax. He thinks I can apply for a refund once I get back to AZ, but that's a lot of money and even if he's right I'm sure it will take CA months to actually refund the money.

I'm going to call AZDOT and CA DMV today to get the specifics.

I'm not sure why the dealership is acting this way, especially for the money you are paying but that sucks. When I was looking for a 2016 I found one in my state (NC) and it had 10,000 miles on it. Found another one in SC via CarGurus, which is great website, called the dealership but the managers wife had it and didn't want to give it up. They made me a heck of a deal on a 2017 (5 miles on it). I never saw the car except for pictures. Dealership even drove it from SC to NC and drove back my trade in. Wasn't very far, maybe 50-60 miles but was still impressed. They handled all the paperwork via texts and pics. When he brought the vehicle to my house he had all the paperwork ready.

Hope it works out for ya....

 

[Swampmonger]

The salesman pitched two options, but he's out today so I have been able to finalize anything.

1. I go there and pick it up. According to AZ DMV that will work. As long as I pay at least 5.6% tax I will be all set. They will supposedly collect it from CA. The downside is that I will be paying a lot more than that in tax. CA doesn't tax the sales price minus trade so I will pay tax on the whole price of the LC. Also, since the tax rate is higher than AZ I'll just be paying more overall. The success of this depends on the dealer getting the paperwork to the right people so I don't get bogged down in a paperwork tug of war between CA and AZ.

2. They deliver it across state lines, I slap a 3-day restricted permit on it and drive it to the AZ DMV. That saves me a TON in taxes, but it depends on the dealer actually doing it. Or, at least, doing it and not trying to charge me an arm and a leg for the service. Fresno to the state line is not a short drive. It also depends on them showing up with the correct paperwork (a sales contract and the actual paper title) for me to register in AZ.

So, I can pay a few thousand more with a higher chance of success (but still not guaranteed) or try to save a few thousand, but risk some pretty big logistical and bureaucratic headaches.

 

[TonyP]

Temp tag it, insure it, and drive it.

 

[NCMTNS]

Temp tag it, insure it, and drive it.

Agree^