I finally own a Land Cruiser!

[sagebrush200]

Just beaming with pride today because I have always admired LCs, particularly the FJ60. Well, recently, my wife and I came into possession of a camper and we had no vehicle capable of towing it. After balking at new pickup prices, I realized I could have a "dream" rig in the driveway that would meet our towing needs (4000lbs max) while also being a great vehicle for getting out and about here in the Pacific Northwest-ish part of the country. Looking forward to learning about my rig!

No offroad mods planned yet, just a Redarc trailer brake first thing. These Dunlops probably have another 5000 miles in them, but I'd like to replace them with a slightly more aggressive AT but being new to trailering AND offroading AND understanding load ratings/ranges, my understanding there is fuzzy. It seems like based on the tire tech forum going with KO2s in a stock size is a good deal, I'm also looking at the more cost effective, skinnier and taller Falken AT3Ws in 275/65 setup but still gathering info on that setup. I'm still not quite picking up how load rating/range and P-metric vs. LT actually works and the effects on towing, mpgs, final drive ratios and all that, but I have a ton more reading to do before I spend any $ on this.

 

[Markuson]

Just beaming with pride today because I have always admired LCs, particularly the FJ60. Well, recently, my wife and I came into possession of a camper and we had no vehicle capable of towing it. After balking at new pickup prices, I realized I could have a "dream" rig in the driveway that would meet our towing needs (4000lbs max) while also being a great vehicle for getting out and about here in the Pacific Northwest-ish part of the country. Looking forward to learning about my rig!

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No offroad mods planned yet, just a Redarc trailer brake first thing. These Dunlops probably have another 5000 miles in them, but I'd like to replace them with a slightly more aggressive AT but being new to trailering AND offroading AND understanding load ratings/ranges, my understanding there is fuzzy. It seems like based on the tire tech forum going with KO2s in a stock size is a good deal, I'm also looking at the more cost effective, skinnier and taller Falken AT3Ws in 275/65 setup but still gathering info on that setup. I'm still not quite picking up how load rating/range and P-metric vs. LT actually works and the effects on towing, mpgs, final drive ratios and all that, but I have a ton more reading to do before I spend any $ on this.

Congrats, and welcome!

 

[Wisluggo]

Welcome!!

 

[Rigger]

Welcome to the madness, the insanity, the general nuttiness.

No, just kidding, sweet ride, glad to have you here. This board is full of great information.

 

[liv2bike]

Welcome! Nice rig man. This forum and the knowledge around here is amazing. Cheers.

 

[99toylc]

Nice truck !!
Welcome to the family!

 

[Sandroad]

It's about time.....we've been waiting for you. Are you near the coast in OR with all that fog?

 

[sagebrush200]

It's about time.....we've been waiting for you. Are you near the coast in OR with all that fog?

Nope, I am in Eastern Oregon, usually it's dry as a bone out here! Just some strange weather we've been having lately. It was also still pretty early in that pic - I took delivery of this last night, so the first thing I did in the morning was run out of the house and stare at my new truck like a kid on Christmas morning.

 

[bloc]

Congrats!
P-metric: better fuel efficiency, better ride quality (lower required tire pressure for a given load, also simply lighter), generally tighter less open tread so will give up some mud traction, lighter duty sidewall so if you play in the rocks a lot they are less robust.
LT-metric: more tread depth and spacing, more weight, less efficient, more robust sidewall, more required air pressure. Between the weight and pressure there is a noticeable change in ride quality.

Personally I wouldn’t go any narrower than the stock 285. It’ll contribute to sinking in sand vs floating.. to the extent the stock tires can anyway.

 

[sagebrush200]

Nice, thank you for that explanation bloc. I've been coming to the same conclusion independently here - it looks like I'd be running closer to 42psi in an LT tire to get back to the max gvwr so that makes sense to me that the ride will suffer.

As I read more, I am actually liking the idea of the C-rated AT3Ws, they should be lighter and softer riding than the D-rated KO2s. To your point, the 10mm or ~.4" width reduction does reduce performance, but wouldn't it be somewhat negligble if I air down? I'll probably spin up a thread in the tire section as I get closer to wanting to reshoe it.

 

[bloc]

Nice, thank you for that explanation bloc. I've been coming to the same conclusion independently here - it looks like I'd be running closer to 42psi in an LT tire to get back to the max gvwr so that makes sense to me that the ride will suffer.

As I read more, I am actually liking the idea of the C-rated AT3Ws, they should be lighter and softer riding than the D-rated KO2s. To your point, the 10mm or ~.4" width reduction does reduce performance, but wouldn't it be somewhat negligble if I air down? I'll probably spin up a thread in the tire section as I get closer to wanting to reshoe it.

If you compare tire weights c will only save a few pounds, though that saved weight is at the periphery where it will do the most good. Tire pressure will be almost identical between C and D, both will be significantly higher than P or regular metric. In terms of “soft riding” the less substantial construction of a c-load tire won’t be felt in the seat. That is a relatively small change. It is the tire pressure and potentially tire/wheel mass overwhelming the damping ability of the shocks that makes it all the way up there.

Like many things tires are a compromise. Want that aggressive tread and construction? Pay for it in ride quality and mileage.

Keep in mind airing down applies to the wider tire as well. And, these are heavy trucks, we sometimes need the additional footprint compared to the 4runners and pickups we drove before.

 

[TheIcemanCometh]

Nope, I am in Eastern Oregon, usually it's dry as a bone out here! Just some strange weather we've been having lately. It was also still pretty early in that pic - I took delivery of this last night, so the first thing I did in the morning was run out of the house and stare at my new truck like a kid on Christmas morning.

Seeing the Lithia tag, I think I may have looked over that LC but it has a black interior and I wanted the lighter color.

BTW Where abouts in eastern Oregon are you??

 

[sagebrush200]

BTW Where abouts in eastern Oregon are you??

Hermiston here. It is the Terra interior, it's a one owner with 37k miles if that rings a bell.

In other news, after some research I have decided to order a set of Yokohama Geolandar AT G015s for the OE wheels in OE size. If/when I want to get a more aggressive tire, I will pick up a set of rock warriors and some MTs, but for now the Yokohama seems to be in the sweet spot for me as a P-metric tire splitting duties between towing and forest service road exploration.

 

[TheIcemanCometh]

Hermiston here. It is the Terra interior, it's a one owner with 37k miles if that rings a bell.

In other news, after some research I have decided to order a set of Yokohama Geolandar AT G015s for the OE wheels in OE size. If/when I want to get a more aggressive tire, I will pick up a set of rock warriors and some MTs, but for now the Yokohama seems to be in the sweet spot for me as a P-metric tire splitting duties between towing and forest service road exploration.

Different than what I looked at, just funny to see Lithia tag as they had several when I was looking. Enjoy ... from another NE Oregonian (La Grande).

 

[afgman786]

Congrats and welcome!

Also I find it hard to believe that a 275 wide will suffer that bad compared to a 285, its only 10mm.

 

[Madtiger]

For your needs, get Michelin Defender P-metric in STOCK size because it is XL rated. Lightweight. Tough. Can handle lots of load!!!

 

[bloc]

I read it as 265 vs 275, my mistake. Not nearly as much of a downgrade in appearance or performance. Personally I’d still stick with the 285 but that’s me.

 

[sagebrush200]

I read it as 265 vs 275, my mistake. Not nearly as much of a downgrade in appearance or performance. Personally I’d still stick with the 285 but that’s me.

Appreciate the conversation and education all the same

 

[unclemat]

Welcome! Blizzard White Pearl is awesome.

 

[Tex68w]

Welcome and congrats! We just bought the very same Cruiser on 12/31. Like yourself, we are going to keep it pretty mild for now with only the addition of some slightly taller AT's.