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CreeperSleeper

CreeperSleeper

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I'm aquiring a slightly used set of SS Irok Bias in 37x14x17 that I will be mounting on 17x8 non beadlocked wheels. I'm wondering how many golf balls it would take to balance the tires. According to the Dyna-Beads website, I need 10 oz per tire but that doesn't seem right. That's 6 or 7 golf balls! What do you guys think? I really don't want to guess and check this because I can only imagine how much fun the tires are gonna be to mount on that narrow of a wheel...
 
CreeperSleeper said:
I'm aquiring a slightly used set of SS Irok Bias in 37x14x17 that I will be mounting on 17x8 non beadlocked wheels. I'm wondering how many golf balls it would take to balance the tires. According to the Dyna-Beads website, I need 10 oz per tire but that doesn't seem right. That's 6 or 7 golf balls! What do you guys think? I really don't want to guess and check this because I can only imagine how much fun the tires are gonna be to mount on that narrow of a wheel...
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I don't have an answer to your question but my 36" IROK bias tires balanced perfectly with normal lead weights and not an insane amount either. I know that Super Swamper has issues making round tires so I may just be lucky.
 
that's 10oz per tire at the RIM....much ligher at the outside of the tire where the golf balls reside....

IMO, 4....
 
Yeah, I don't want to run weights on the rim... I have learned that I tend to spin the wheel inside the tire when I'm wheeling.

And the Dyna beads work just like BBs or golf balls, so thats what I assumed they were talking about...
 
Is there a down side if you have a little extra weight in the tire? I would give it a try, if it doesn't need the extra weight you'll have some "extra" in case you end up with mud and such in the tread or stuck in the rim.
 
That's a wider tire and my experience with internal media was that it wasn't any good at balancing laterally. With a wider tire there is more of a chance to also have lateral imbalance. I started with 14oz per tire (airsoft) and then tried 24oz per tire (BBs) because I still had vibs, I thought if I had more then the weight would just even out around the tire and not cause any problems. When I put more weight in my tires the vibs got worse. My current solution was to take all the weight out of the tires and they run a lot better, not perfect but definitely not what it was before. I can drive at 70mph with minimal vibs. Do you have a way to mount and dismount yourself? I ask because you might have to pop the bead a couple of times to get the right amount of weight in it. In anycase I would start without weight and see how they do. If it's bad at least you have a starting point and can determine if adding more weight is beneficial or not. I'm not a pro but I can show you how to mount and dismount (I bought some irons/spoons) if you are interested.
 
just don't use ProV1's. Maybe some pinnacle or rockflights!! :)
 
Chad...


I tried balancing 3 sets of 37's with BB's with mixed results.


The first set were Toyo's. They are pretty round as you know and don't require a ton of weight anyway. I used way too much with two shot glasses of BB's for them. Had slight vibes.

next were the MT/R's. Notorious for being hard to balance and not really round, vibes again with 2 shot glasses.


Then the iroks. Holy crap, biggest POS tire I had the pleasure to try and balance. Tried 1 shot glass, 2 and then 3.


It got worse before better. I am thinking the reasoning above is pretty accurate. I always though the extra weight would just go inert and not affect the tire balance. I think that line of thinking is wrong, more weight will affect the tire drastically.

really, start with the smallest amount you can with the golf balls. I would put 2 in. seriously. Then drive it. I know it's a pain, but if you want the help I will give a hand doing this. I have the tools and rigs to break one bead off to drop more in. :D



Also...just to rub it in...


My Creepy Crawlers on the TR beadlocks?


no balancing, perfect at 70 MPH. :grinpimp::grinpimp:



Best tire balance wise I've owned...and I think I have owned most all tires. :cheers:
 
I appreciate the offers for help, Mike and Jason. It sounds like I may have to take you up on it. My biggest fear with breaking the bead is I will be running an 8" wide rim... that sounds like a pain in the ass! But I think I will try it with no weight and go from there.
 
Is there a reason you guys don't just use a fluid (like coolant) to give you dynamic balancing?
 
I balance 40" Nitto's with regular weights...(alot of them) but non the less, better than golf balls, bbs, and what ever else pple like to stuff in their tires
 
CreeperSleeper said:
I appreciate the offers for help, Mike and Jason. It sounds like I may have to take you up on it. My biggest fear with breaking the bead is I will be running an 8" wide rim... that sounds like a pain in the ass! But I think I will try it with no weight and go from there.
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It might be, but I have a 6k pound truck and a highlift, makes it actually VERY easy. :D
 
VinSil, did you make a base plate for your highlift? Helps keep the side walls healthy when breaking on a narrow rim.

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No but I like that setup! I've just used the offroad base in the past...spreads the load more and I haven't hurt a side wall this way. But...I dig that, I bet it takes little effort with the plate like that. :D
 
It was beyond simple to make. I made mine from scrape. I bent up the lower part first and then just welded it together putting some bolts in it to align with the holes on the HL base plate. I still haven't painted it but it does work well.

Chad, you going to be at the meeting this week?
 
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