How long do the LC200 wheel bearings normally last?
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I've never done "preventive" maintenance on any Toyota model bearings. Between when they start to go and when you have to replace them it is a long time so I'll have plenty of time to buy the parts and replace. I never had to replace a Toyota bearing before 290k miles. I've always run OEM spec offset wheels and OEM alignment specs.
I think it is luck of the draw. I had to replace the rear axle wheel bearings on my 2013 LC at about 103,000 miles. I took that SUV out on the beach for two weeks each year. Did sand get into the bearing and wreck it? That seemed rather early to have to replace the bearings, but the rear axle got really, really loud. I had an axle shop replace the bearings and it was rather expensive. I would not do that on a preventative basis, given the cost, unless you can do that yourself.
bloc
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Install chassis ears and listen to each hub. If any are close to needing work, you’ll know.
As PM? No. Kindof the definition of potentially causing more harm than you are preventing, in large part because of what @doru said about it being a long time from initial noticeable issues to when you’re disabled. They generally don’t just let go and leave you stranded.
Also to add data I had one rear axle bearing go out about 150k miles. I did the other a while later, yes as PM, but I had all the tools, the time, and did know that bearing didn’t sound as good as the new one via the chassis ears, though very far from l being “bad”
As PM? No. Kindof the definition of potentially causing more harm than you are preventing, in large part because of what @doru said about it being a long time from initial noticeable issues to when you’re disabled. They generally don’t just let go and leave you stranded.
Also to add data I had one rear axle bearing go out about 150k miles. I did the other a while later, yes as PM, but I had all the tools, the time, and did know that bearing didn’t sound as good as the new one via the chassis ears, though very far from l being “bad”
I think collectively, across my entire family, we have a couple hundred thousand miles on Toyota and Lexus 4x4s. Never needed to do bearings on any of them.
The 2015 LC that’s gotten the most offroad use, with oversized tires and non factory offset has 100k+ miles and no issues.
N=1 obviously but just wanted to share. I do not plan to replace bearings as a preventative measure
The 2015 LC that’s gotten the most offroad use, with oversized tires and non factory offset has 100k+ miles and no issues.
N=1 obviously but just wanted to share. I do not plan to replace bearings as a preventative measure
bloc
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I will say that the 200 does need more rear wheel bearings than other Toyota models. Kurt from cruiser outfitters put this on my radar years ago and sure enough I needed one. As have a couple dozen users here. Not exactly common, but not like other Toyota models either.
I do wish our models retained the full-float system like the 93-97 80-series..
I do wish our models retained the full-float system like the 93-97 80-series..
bloc
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That’s doru’s point, you shouldn’t need to replace them in the middle of any reasonable trip. My rear bearing was making noise for at least 10k and it still had plenty of miles to go when I caught it, as the ABS sensor wasn’t even dead yet which is a sign things are getting loose.
If it’ll make you feel better just do them, but the rears are more problematic than the fronts on 200s and that’s a rarely a “while you’re in there” job.
We've done many 200/570 rear axle bearing overhauls in the shop and sold kits for many many more. They do seem to need more rebuilds over time than a typical 100/470 imo.
We've assembled a great kit with the parts:
Rear Axle Overhaul Kit - Fits 200 Series With Semi Float Rear Axle Applications (RAK200SF)
Rear Axle Overhaul Kit - Fits 200 Series With Semi Float Rear Axle Applications (RAK200SF)
cruiserteq.com
I had a 1984 Celica with the solid rear axle, I used a slide hammer to remove each axle shaft and bring it to a machine shop, how they pressed the bearing to the exact same place I'm not sure, but that's their job. I bolted it all back on, filled the diff and it was done.
I was an beginner DIY person working on cars back then and it was not difficult.
Is the LC200 much different than this? There is probably another step remove the ABS sensor and some other bits.
To put in perspective I think front wheel bearings on some FWD cars is likely be more tricky than either the front and rear of LC200.
I was an beginner DIY person working on cars back then and it was not difficult.
Is the LC200 much different than this? There is probably another step remove the ABS sensor and some other bits.
To put in perspective I think front wheel bearings on some FWD cars is likely be more tricky than either the front and rear of LC200.
I don't know. My regular mechanic wouldn't do it and the axle shop that did it charged a hefty price.
Very different
bloc
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What @cruiseroutfit said.
Rear axle bearing change
Back again with something I hope will help some people eventually. I'll try not to make this too wordy, but there is a little background. I spent months tracking down a driveline noise and with the help of some board members and especially @CharlieS narrowed it down to a passenger side rear...
forum.ih8mud.com
Front wheel both sides were shot when I got my truck at 210k.
Rear one side went out not much later and took out a rear abs sensor - maybe 215k to 220k. Was howling pretty good when it failed.
Had both rear changed at same time, while the third was out for gears.
Did the front myself, it’s just a few more bolts than a brake rotor replace.
Rear one side went out not much later and took out a rear abs sensor - maybe 215k to 220k. Was howling pretty good when it failed.
Had both rear changed at same time, while the third was out for gears.
Did the front myself, it’s just a few more bolts than a brake rotor replace.
Normally last? As in a completely stock rig? I'd argue they'd probably last the life of the car, save for an unlucky few who experience failure for whatever reason.
For the rest of us that like to break things by doing the following, maybe all at once
- big stiff tires
- aggressive offsets
- stiff suspensions
- overlanding weight
- towing too heavy
- exceeding GAWR
- rock crawling, Baja 1000, or curb incidents on the way to the mall
I proactively changed my rear axle bearings at ~135k because they supposedly need rebuilds? Especially as I tow and overload my rear axle to 5,460lbs on 35s, and is only rated to 4,300lbs GAWR. Honestly they were as clean as a whistle. I would say only rebuild as needed. They will let you know. More than likely, unless it's an extreme user, they have the potential live a long life just like the rest of the car.
For the rest of us that like to break things by doing the following, maybe all at once
- big stiff tires
- aggressive offsets
- stiff suspensions
- overlanding weight
- towing too heavy
- exceeding GAWR
- rock crawling, Baja 1000, or curb incidents on the way to the mall
I proactively changed my rear axle bearings at ~135k because they supposedly need rebuilds? Especially as I tow and overload my rear axle to 5,460lbs on 35s, and is only rated to 4,300lbs GAWR. Honestly they were as clean as a whistle. I would say only rebuild as needed. They will let you know. More than likely, unless it's an extreme user, they have the potential live a long life just like the rest of the car.
What @cruiseroutfit said.
Rear axle bearing change
Back again with something I hope will help some people eventually. I'll try not to make this too wordy, but there is a little background. I spent months tracking down a driveline noise and with the help of some board members and especially @CharlieS narrowed it down to a passenger side rear...
Apparently, I outsourced most of the hard work (replace the actual bearings) to the machine shop, that's why I thought it's easy.
@cruiseroutfit Do you know where I can get the press tools to do the job once I buy a kit from you?
I saw the tool on amazon at some point. Just search for it.
There are also posts in this forum with the tool and where they got it.
There are also posts in this forum with the tool and where they got it.
There are 200/Tundra bearing tools on Amazon, eBay and others.
