Highest quality tires?

[SWUtah]

Who makes the highest quality tires for our 100 series? I'm talkin materials, always balance well, wear even, wear for over 40K+ miles. Michelin LTX's, Bridgestone Alenza's, REVO's, BFG AT/KO's. I know that some of these are off road and some more on road I'm not talkin about where the tire will take you, I'm talkin materials and workmanship etc.
Thanks for any insight on this topic.

 

[ckkone]

I would have went with the Toyo M-55 if I was not such a tight-wad...

I read somewhere that you can expect 70 - 80K miles out of them

Largest size available is 285.75.16

 

[9toys]

I've only used the LTX/MS on both my LC and 2 Tundras, but can attest that they are the smoothest, quietest, longest wearing tire I've ever ridden. Excellent on pavement and do a decent job on South Texas ranch roads and Big Bend National Park back country roads.

 

[hkeller]

I'd think Michelin. Hate that it is a French company, but they make the roundest titres out there.

 

[Abe Nitro]

BFG, Pro-Comp, Yokohama, and Goodyear tires have been used on my 4WD vehicles over the last 15 years. Goodyear are the best in my opinion when considering on and off road performance, economy, and overall tire design. Take a look at the new Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor. They are a very capable offroad tire with excellent wet and dry on road performance. They are nearly silent when driving on pavement in my 100.

 

[cary]

You have to start with what your proposed use is. Some manufactures products are superior to others in different categories.

In general Michelin seems to have the best quality control and design tires from the perspective of quality and performance first, cost second. For general highway use, with light off road (dirt roads, mild trails, no rocks), the LTX and Cross-Terrain are probably the highest quality tire.

Jump to a more mixed used tire, and the Bridgestone Revo A/T is probably the best all around tire.

For an all Terrain, IMHO the BFG A/T (BFG is a Michelin company) is the best tire. When I asked Michelin about the Michelin A/T v. the BFG, I was told the BFG was a better tire in every regard, except treadlife, where the Michelin lasts a ridiculously long time (often 100k+ miles) due to it's compounding. I am under the impression that since Michelin's acquisition of BFG, they are basically focusing their A/T and M/T light truck R&D on the BFG brand and slowly stepping out of the market with the Michelin Brand (the Michelin A/T is 10+ years old now).

 

[SWUtah]

You have to start with what your proposed use is. Some manufactures products are superior to others in different categories.

In general Michelin seems to have the best quality control and design tires from the perspective of quality and performance first, cost second. For general highway use, with light off road (dirt roads, mild trails, no rocks), the LTX and Cross-Terrain are probably the highest quality tire.

Jump to a more mixed used tire, and the Bridgestone Revo A/T is probably the best all around tire.

For an all Terrain, IMHO the BFG A/T (BFG is a Michelin company) is the best tire. When I asked Michelin about the Michelin A/T v. the BFG, I was told the BFG was a better tire in every regard, except treadlife, where the Michelin lasts a ridiculously long time (often 100k+ miles) due to it's compounding. I am under the impression that since Michelin's acquisition of BFG, they are basically focusing their A/T and M/T light truck R&D on the BFG brand and slowly stepping out of the market with the Michelin Brand (the Michelin A/T is 10+ years old now).

Your analysis matchs my research. Since my use is on a 2004 LX470 that will be 98% highway/local roads with light to moderate snow/ice and 2% dirt/gravel and no field/rock use. Sounds like replacing the LTX Pilots with another set before the snow flys will be the smart move. I kinda wanted to step up to the 275/65/18 REVO's but that would be stupid for my use. Thanks guys for the insight.

 

[cruiser100]

Consumer Reports rated AT tires; the Nitto TG (80) and Toyo OC (72) got the nod for best all around performance.

The rated categories were Dry (braking, cornering, emer handling), Wet (braking w/ABS, cornering, hydroplaning), Winter (snow trac, braking wo/ABS), Comfort (overall, steering feel, impact, noise) & Other (rolling resistance).

Bridgestone Dueler APT III and A/T Revo also received good ratings if winter performance was not an issue.

 

[cary]

Consumer Reports rated AT tires; the Nitto TG (80) and Toyo OC (72) got the nod for best all around performance.

The rated categories were Dry (braking, cornering, emer handling), Wet (braking w/ABS, cornering, hydroplaning), Winter (snow trac, braking wo/ABS), Comfort (overall, steering feel, impact, noise) & Other (rolling resistance).

Bridgestone Dueler APT III and A/T Revo also received good ratings if winter performance was not an issue.

Consumer reports also left out the BFG A/T when they tested the tires, instead testing the notoriously crappy OEM Rugged Trail T/A. Consumers does a great job on being objective, but sometimes they miss the boat.

If you look under their test of all season performance tires you will see they rated the Dunlop 5000 as their top pick. I ran those tires on my wifes 525i and they were awful, horrible treadlife (25k miles), balance issues, uneven wear, and poor breakaway characteristics. Take a look on Tire Rack at the long list of complaints. Take their test for what they are worth.

 

[pint]

I've been running the Nitto TG's for nearly 2 years and love them. Very solid overall performance on and off road. Did great in the deep snow we had this winter in Colorado. A little more road noise over stock, but not bad. I would buy them again tomorrow.

 

[gotmud]

I'd think Michelin. Hate that it is a French company, but they make the roundest titres out there.

They also make all the BFG's.

 

[SALEH]

i think bridgstone Revo !

 

[Mark SR.]

i think bridgstone Revo !

I ordered 5 today!

-Mark

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Could there be a reason the BFG AT KO is the #1 selling AT tire in the US?

 

[cary]

Could there be a reason the BFG AT KO is the #1 selling AT tire in the US?

Lots of possible reasons for any product to be number 1 in sales:

1) Price,
2) Advertising,
3) Quality,
4) Lack of competition,
5) many other reasons.

Walmart is the number #1 retailer in the US, it doesn't mean I want to shop there or buy their products. The #1 selling vehicle in the US in 2006 was a Ford F150 truck, doesn't mean it is the best.

The BFG A/T is a great A/T tire and probably the best in it's category of an A/T tire that can be really used off road, but that doesn't mean it is the best for everyone's use.

 

[SWUtah]

Lots of possible reasons for any product to be number 1 in sales:

1) Price,
2) Advertising,
3) Quality,
4) Lack of competition,
5) many other reasons.

Walmart is the number #1 retailer in the US, it doesn't mean I want to shop there or buy their products. The #1 selling vehicle in the US in 2006 was a Ford F150 truck, doesn't mean it is the best.

The BFG A/T is a great A/T tire and probably the best in it's category of an A/T tire that can be really used off road, but that doesn't mean it is the best for everyone's use.

I think cary has hit on the key to this discussion. For my 2004 LX470 the Michelin Pilot LTX is best for my intended use. I had BFG AT/KO's on my 95 FZJ80 and they served me well, but it already felt like a solid axle truck. I think if I was going for smoother ride on road and good off road I would go with the REVO's. I've read about the Alenza's and the are rated great but I would need to buy 5 new ones instead of 4 michelins. A lot of varibles to consider. Thanks for everyones input so far.

 

[Greg E]

SWUtah,

Michelin has a new tire in the the 275/60 18 size that is worth looking into - The Latitude Tour HP. I am close to needing new tires also. Bellow is the description from Tirerack. I have been pleased with the Pilot LTX's for my use but this is their new tire for Lux SUV's which fits your use.


The Latitude Tour HP is Michelin's Highway All-Season light truck tire developed for the drivers of luxury SUVs and premium crossover vehicles. Initially used as Original Equipment on Mercedes-Benz M-Class and R-Class models, as well as the European Volvo XC90, the Latitude Tour HP was designed to combine desirable ride and handling qualities with all-season traction, even in light snow.

The Latitude Tour HP uses Michelin's XSE Technology to blend handling, comfort and treadwear. On the outside, the Latitude Tour HP molds a high performance all-season silica tread compound into a symmetric pattern that has swept-back tread blocks to balance wet and snow traction, treadwear and fuel efficiency, along with ride and noise comfort. Stable shoulder blocks and a continuous center rib boost responsiveness and highway stability, while wide circumferential grooves, longitudinal grooves and sipes help resist hydroplaning and improve snow handling. On the inside, twin steel belts reinforced with Michelin's Banded At Zero (BAZ) spiral-wrapped polyamide cord supports the tread area to provide consistent handling and precise high-speed control, while polyester cords stabilize the sidewalls and enhance ride quality.

 

[Mark SR.]

I just ordered 5 Revos in the stock 275/70/16 size ( the spare had been rotated through). My off road use will be 90% in beach sand for the next 5 years until new tires, and I can't have / don't want the truck any higher. I had 31" BFG A/Ts on the 4Runner for a stretch and liked them. I went back to the OEM type 31" Dueler H/T after the BFGs wore out. I personally preferred the Bridgestone as a better all around tire for MY particular use. I considered it a quality tire. They did amazing on road and never let me down in deep Hatteras beach sand at normal psi. I am now running 31" Revos on it and they are even better.

Can't say that about the worn Grandtreks to PO put on my 100, though they did go 50k miles.

-Mark

 

[jgh2k]

I am really impressed with Yokohama Geolander A/T-S

After using both BFG and Nitto I do prefer the Yokos due to their all around off & on road feel

 

[GXO]

LTXs are spanky nice.