Help! real time

[Dbradford04]

Can anyone tell me what engine this is?

 

[canucksafari]

Looks like a 24 volt 3B to this Nissan guy. But you may want a true Cruiserhead to confirm.

Oh and it is in a right hand drive.

 

[kim]

Yep! I second the 3b and 24v.

I have never seen a rad cap on a thermostat before though.

 

[Dbradford04]

apparently, the later 3b's had the cap on the thermostat housing. I believe it's a 3b as well, but have some differences of opinion.

 

[crushers]

1988+ 3b ii

 

[Dbradford04]

Hmmm lots of differing opinions...keep them coming!

 

[crushers]

cancel that, the 3B II has a header exhaust and a rotory pump ...

 

[amaurer]

Gonna be hard to say - many of the B engines look superficially similar. That one didn't come from a cruiser as far as I can tell (just in case it wasn't clear from that intake and the heater lines its definitely a transplant).

I don't think I see glow plugs and I think I do see a glow screen so its probably direct injection. So maybe 11B, 13B, 14B, 15B, etc...?

 

[kim]

And then that cover doesn't look like a 3B. Must be an earlier B.

 

[amaurer]

Hmm... 11B valve cover doesn't match (that might just depend on the year) but the injector line layout and intake manifold are very similar:

 

[canucksafari]

Here is the same 3B engine listed on the Turbo-Glide web site as being in an Australian spec BJ70.
Turbo-Glide: Toyota Landcruiser 3B BJ70 Turbo Kit fitted

 

[amaurer]

Here is the same 3B engine listed on the Turbo-Glide web site as being in an Australian spec BJ70.

What? Are you saying thats the OPs engine? Only the valve cover matches, to my eye.

 

[Dbradford04]

Looks like the same valve cover, but different intake, and the thermostat housing is reversed. I am looking to buy it, but wont bother to go to the epense of going to look at it if it isn't a 3B.

Thanks for all the input..it's a mystery!

 

[canucksafari]

I can't say 100% but I am assuming the externals would be easy for Toyota to change depending on what it is used for or different design changes through the years. The one I posted up is listed as a 3B. You can clearly see that unlike almost all of the 3Bs I have seen in Canada (including those in a BJ70), this one has a rotary pump.

For the OP, can't the seller send you pics of any identifying numbers on the block? As him to check for the number cast into the side of the block. That should end the speculation - at least on my part.

 

[amaurer]

I can't say 100% but I am assuming the externals would be easy for Toyota to change depending on what it is used for or different design changes through the years. The one I posted up is listed as a 3B. You can clearly see that unlike almost all of the 3Bs I have seen in Canada (including those in a BJ70), this one has a rotary pump.

For the OP, can't the seller send you pics of any identifying numbers on the block? As him to check for the number cast into the side of the block. That should end the speculation - at least on my part.

Well that much is very true. In my driveway I have one 3B with an inline pump, one with a rotary pump. One has a left-pointing Tstat, one points right. One has the cap on the stat, one on the rad. etc.

Toyota basically just dipped each block into a bin of parts and whichever flavor stuck on were what they used.

But.... IDI vs DI is a big change. The lack of glow plugs seals it for me - it'd be damn hard to start an IDI engine with a glow screen.

 

[lostmarbles]

......
I don't think I see glow plugs and I think I do see a glow screen so its probably direct injection. So maybe 11B, 13B, 14B, 15B, etc...?

I agree with you here Drew.

The engine is definitely a transplant (as opposed to the ex-factory original 3B) Dan.

And it is direct-injection which means the engine model number is preceded by a "1".

Probably a 13B ... but that's just a guess.

See what numbers and letters are cast into the engine block on the left-hand side below the inlet manifold Dan.

Cheers
Tom

 

[canucksafari]

You are right. I don't see glow plugs or a glow plug bar on the Turbo Glide's "3B". I'll have to go back to their site and take a look for some other pics. But the OP's engine does have glow plugs. Maybe a 13B?

 

[lostmarbles]

Here's a pic of a 13B from a Dyna:

 

[amaurer]

You are right. I don't see glow plugs or a glow plug bar on the Turbo Glide's "3B". I'll have to go back to their site and take a look for some other pics. But the OP's engine does have glow plugs. Maybe a 13B?

Ha, amazing how two people can look at the same picture and come to exactly opposite conclusions.

I think the OPs picture doesn't have plugs, but your Turboglide pic does. What looks like a bus bar on the OPs pic is a drain/return line, methinks.

err Tom's picture shows it better too. 13B looks even closer than the 11B. I think Tom's got it.

Now, the question becomes - is it really a 13B, or is it a 13BT that blew up its turbo and someone threw a 3B manifold onto??? Either way, if the price is right that engine might be a plus rather than a minus... I'd go check it out, personally.

 

[Dieseler]

It cant be a 3B manifold swap since the venturi is a side draft not top draft like the B , 2b and 3B manifolds.
I am curious why the vent cap is mounted to the thermostat housing my thought would be the motor was pulled from a commercial vehicle aplication where the rad would be located in a hard to access area.