Help Rate Rubicon

[Fast Eddy]

I want to run Rubicon during Rubithon, but I am "skeered like leetle girl".

Please help me by rating Rubicon, taking the bypasses, using the CM09 rating scale:

Cruise Moab - Trail rating system

 

[D'Animal]

The rubicon is a living and breathing beast.

It changes on a daily basis depending on the traffic.

After a JeeperJambori you can drive a Greyhound bus through there. There is a lot of rock stacking going on. It caters to new rubicon owner with bone stock rigs. They can do the trail without a scratch on thier rig.

I have driven in with no problems before and went to leave and thought I was on the wrong trail. It was really tore up in 48hours.

 

[Fast Eddy]

Let me drive your 40 and I'll take lots of pics of your 45.5 for you.

BTW, you're supposed to talk me into it, or out of it.

I'm thinking of getting some 2" springs from MustardFJ40 to help solve my locker clearance issue.

If you don't know me and don't want to read my mile-long ROTW, my rig has a good-running 2f, h41, 3-speed t-case with savers, 4:11s, lock-rite in the rear and e-locker in the front, with 33" ATs. It's been through Deer Valley a couple times with some minor body-thrashing that I would like to avoid repeating if possible. I've got some rocker protection, and I'll probably augment that before the summer.

 

[D'Animal]

Take your son and make sure he has some good gloves so he can stack some rock for you.

I think that is why they have specific "Runs". On the Wagon Run, if an FJ 60 with a 2.5" lift on 33's will go through, the rest of the FJ60's set up the same or higher should make it.

I'm going to tell you not to do it since you only have one dent in your rig and it was from the FJ45 run. (If I said Yes Take it and you got a dent, you would blame me.)

I Think 33's is a mimimum for most TLCA events.

 

[Pighead]

...taking the bypasses, I think I'd call the Rubicon mostly a 7 with some 8s based on the CM criteria...
A good running 2F 40 on 33s should make it with just one or two new dents. Pack light.
Do it. It will make you a better driver.

Edit: P.S. Not a 9 because rollovers are not very common (well, BK rolls every year. But most people don't) and the Rubicon is not beyond the capability of a modified stock vehicle.

 

[D'Animal]

...BK rolls every year. But most people don't) and the Rubicon is not beyond the capability of a modified stock vehicle.

BK rolls a lot though.

 

[greenfox]

If you break down set up camp that's all I have to say

If you want to go for the first time do so as a passenger so you can see what your up against.

 

[Pighead]

If you want to go for the first time do so as a passenger so you can see what your up against.

That is very good advice.

 

[GRM]

I have a solution for you Eddy: If your worried about making it: follow behind my mini truck and i'll strap you through!

And the con is a lot harder than deer valley, but I think you can do it without any problem.

 

[TCH2FLY]

Based on our CM criteria 7 or 8. It depends on what you are driving.

My experience .... none of the obstacles I ran (took a lot of bypasses) were any worse than what you find in Moab. I like the challenge but it was not overwhelming.
IMO the major difference is the relentless nature of Rubicon. There are not many places where you can "take a break". It felt like a continous level 5-6 with the occasional 7-8 level obstacle. (Wore me out... I'm used to running continuous 2-3 with occasional 6-7+ )

 

[D'Animal]

You should really post a picture of your rig so others can see how clean and stock it is.

 

[Pighead]

You should really post a picture of your rig so others can see how clean and stock it is.

Pighead went so far as to find his ROTW thread...

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/137295-rotw-fast-eddys-78-fj40.html

So, Fast Eddy, leave the running boards at home, you say you have rocker protection now? Good. Maybe trim the trailing edge of the front fenders, they find rocks in stock length and it's never pretty. Maybe add some taillight protection. Or take off the lenses before the trail. Take off the pretty hubcaps. Pack light. Expect more dents and scrapes.

 

[Pighead]

IMO the major difference is the relentless nature of Rubicon. There are not many places where you can "take a break". It felt like a continous level 5-6 with the occasional 7-8 level obstacle. (Wore me out...)

Absolutely agree. The Rubicon is relentless and exhausting. The mental stress of the never-ending series of "Oh-s***" obstacles adds to the physical toll. And you have a front e-locker and manual steering? Fortunately, our rigs generally make short work of these obstacles. Sometimes even make it look easy. The "OMFG I can't believe I made that" feeling is priceless.
The Rubithon is like a semester of Graduate-level driver's training with a Spring-break party in the middle.

 

[FJ40_owner]

Let me drive your 40 and I'll take lots of pics of your 45.5 for you.

BTW, you're supposed to talk me into it, or out of it.

I'm thinking of getting some 2" springs from MustardFJ40 to help solve my locker clearance issue.

If you don't know me and don't want to read my mile-long ROTW, my rig has a good-running 2f, h41, 3-speed t-case with savers, 4:11s, lock-rite in the rear and e-locker in the front, with 33" ATs. It's been through Deer Valley a couple times with some minor body-thrashing that I would like to avoid repeating if possible. I've got some rocker protection, and I'll probably augment that before the summer.

Alvaro and his 80's friends do the Rubicon all the time. In a 40 you could do it on 33's, if you are careful and pick your lines.

 

[FJ40_owner]

I have a solution for you Eddy: If your worried about making it: follow behind my mini truck and i'll strap you through!

And the con is a lot harder than deer valley, but I think you can do it without any problem.

I have run Deer valley in my bone stock Ford F250 4x4. (N-S)

It beat the crap out of me but the truck came through with no body damage at all

 

[Fast Eddy]

Pighead went so far as to find his ROTW thread...

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/137295-rotw-fast-eddys-78-fj40.html

So, Fast Eddy, leave the running boards at home, you say you have rocker protection now? Good. Maybe trim the trailing edge of the front fenders, they find rocks in stock length and it's never pretty. Maybe add some taillight protection. Or take off the lenses before the trail. Take off the pretty hubcaps. Pack light. Expect more dents and scrapes.

The trailing edges of the front fenders are no longer perfect after the last Deer Valley mud hole escapade. My improved rock-protection will wrap around them as well. I've already got the tail light protection and it will be enhanced to wrap around the rear corners. I forgot to take off the hubcaps at Deer Valley too, but I'll remember next time.

I'd still like to go as a passenger or better, co-driver if anyone has an empty seat.

 

[D'Animal]

I may have an open seat in my FJ40.5. I will know closer to the date.

It will not give you the feel if your stocker will make it through.

 

[Fast Eddy]

I may have an open seat in my FJ40.5. I will know closer to the date.

It will not give you the feel if your stocker will make it through.

Yes. Dibs on that if it comes available.