Help me with OME lift problem

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jcarterdelt

jcarterdelt

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So I installed a heavy/heavy OME Suspension. Well I have a slight problem. I got this from Kurt at cruiseroutfitters.com. It has a terrible lean now....before you start getting on to me about "use the search option", I have read a lot of posts about this problem but they don't seem to fit my problem.

Let me explain. First here are my heights of fenders at all for wheels:

Drivers Front - 36.25"
Passenger Front - 37.25"
Drivers Back - 37.5"
Passenger Back - 38.75"

Everything seems to lean towards the Drivers side front wheel. I have matching "A" springs in the back and CS004F springs in the front. I have the longer shackles on the front and shorter ones on the back. I have talked to ARB and they said they wanted me to let the springs "settle in" for 200 miles. I tried to contact Kurt but I haven't heard anything back from him yet.

This lean seems abnormal compared to what others have posted here. Not sure what to do. I don't think swapping springs with either side would make a difference because they are identical with each other.

I understand that the back should be a little higher because of my setup that I ordered for my heavy bumper that I will put on soon. It really bothers me that the Drivers side front is so low.

HELP!
 
I think (don't quote me just yet, as i'm rusty from when I did my lift) there should be an "A" side (driver) and "B" side (passenger) springs for the rear. This was made to correct the infamous "Cruiser lean"

Again, i'm not 100% on this, but if I recall right, that's what mine was.
 
There is but there is debate on the forum about if you should have A and B or just the same A or B on the back. So I don't really think it is an "A/B" problem. Especially because it is leans a bunch in the front and there are no A and B springs there. Frustrating.......
 
Hrm....sorry I couldn't be of more help, best of luck to ya. I'll keep my eyes open if I see something along the lines
 
There's another guy working on the same problem... look up the other OME thread from the other day. i just added OME mediums to mine. The A(+) spring is on the driver side. the B(-) spring is on the passenger side. Front springs are equal. Supposedly this difference allows for the weight of the driver (and perhaps the engine mostly on the left). I still sit a bit higher on the driver side, but not as bad as yours. I believe the other guy also had matching rear springs, and a bad lean. It appears the offset spring height is necessary. (I don't know if it factors in, but my old DS leafs were busted, I assume the most wear and tear is on that side). Regardless, perhaps you could pull the rear leafs and just put whatever is taller on the Driver side.

One response said to check the shackle tightness and go hit an easy trail (maybe check toghtness of the leaf clamps as well?). Some people have had luck with this. Probably more of what you already heard... good luck. I'm doing the fine tuning too with steering, etc. Sounds frustrating after spending good $$$ on some brand new springs.
 
P.S. If I remember correctly the other guy ALSO leans LEFT with two identical rear springs. I lean RIGHT (but much less) with the offset springs. I wonder if OME just started selling off their extra A(+) springs as pairs.
 
All this lean talk got me looking at my cruiser and asking the question is this too much lean. I looked at my leafs and noticed that the drivers side rear leaf has an 0 on it while the passengers side leaf has an I on it. No plus or minus. Its OME I got it from Man-a-fre. The other numbers are are to read, I can't really tell if there is an A stamped on the model number. I want to remove a leaf anyway since it is stink bug right now. The front leafs have the I and O on the opposite side as the back. So I'm hpoing the rear is incorrect since I want to take a leaf off any way.:cheers:
 
From what I read, (0) means dead on spec. (+) means slightly taller, (-) means slightly below spec. Per their instructions you want the taller spring for the driver side. I think the 'shot-peening' test (which certifies strength of the spring) also leaves the springs at slightly different heights, hence the (+,0,-) distinction. I haven't measured how much taller I am on the DS--> not sure I want to know! (but I like the stinkbug look).
 
I have (-) on both springs in the front and (+) on both springs in the back. I don't think that is the problem. I have identical springs on the front and identical springs on the back. Can a spring just be "bad"? Maybe it's not holding its curve or tension as much as the other side.
 
Well I guess that throws out my earlier theory...

I just went and did a first flex of the new suspension to break it in a bit. Some twisty trail and a big pile of dirt helped.

The OME mediums did relax a bit, more up front than in the rear. Now I lean even further on the right side. not going to measure... it just leans more.

Maybe there can be an OME/LC lean club???:banana:
 
jcarterdelt said:
I have (-) on both springs in the front and (+) on both springs in the back. I don't think that is the problem. I have identical springs on the front and identical springs on the back. Can a spring just be "bad"? Maybe it's not holding its curve or tension as much as the other side.
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since you have - up from and + in the rear, does your sit stink bug? It doesnt look like it in your avatar. but from reading that the + have extra arch and the - have less then standard. It seems logical. I just know mine leans and I want to fix it. down and to the left, down and to the left.
 
So the l or - I guess depending on how your looking at it need to go on the passenger side and the 0 need to go on the driver side. Since I dont have a + on mine anywhere. Not trying to hijack, just figued i get and answer here instead of starting a new thread for the same issue.
 
Hey Jared, I'm working on the lean on my end.

Long story short, for the last 10+ years we have been using A/B rear springs though in some cases we did go with an A/A or B/B rear spring (fronts are all the same). Earlier this year I had a long conversation with the tech guys @ ARB. Their preference is an A/A or B/B setup and furthermore have modified their application guide as such. Its their opinion that they will get 'less' lean complaints with this versus the A/B setups. I'll be in touch with you tomorrow after I get a chance to get an answer from ARB. Regardless as usual, we'll get you taken care of.

Totally shooting from the hip but its like 95% of the kits we sell (regardless of A/A or A/B) sit level or are not leaning enough for the owners to notice. Then there is the other 5%, that are going to see lean. This is very frustrating for myself and I know ARB feels this frustration too. A/B is not 60 Series specific, in fact many of their applications use it and for the most part its more like 99% spot on.

Stay tuned Jared, I'll ring you tomorrow.
 
Forgot to mention Jared, take a look at this:
Cruiser Outfitters

Has some info and ideas. I should also mention that myself and ARB prefer that you give it some time to settle. I know it doesn't feel right to have it leaning but we will get it taken care of in 6 months just the same as 6 days. I've dealt with quite a few of these kits that have 'corrected' themselves after breaking in, some good flexxing and flogging it down some washboard. There was a case with a Mudder a couple of years back in which his A/B setup had some lean. He was pretty persistent about going with an A/A so we made it happen, right after install it was level. Guess who called in 6 months with the same lean back, now to the opposite side. Luckily we had the 'low mileage' B spring available and after installed and a bit of travel he was sitting level within 1/4".
 
Sounds good Kurt. I took it out last night and loaded it down with weight. Then I took it to some local trails and flexed it a bit. I plan on giving it sometime to settle in. I am not in big hurry, especially since I am having shoulder surgery tomorrow and I wont be able to swap springs anytime soon. I feel better that you are working on it and I know we can get it fixed sooner or later.

It does have a stink bug look but that was planned so that I could add a heavy rear bumper, roof rack, and equipment, it will sit level.
 
I consider my 75 pound bag of Jeep extractors (tow chains) as balast. I leave them on the passenger side most of the time. Cruisers are always leaning one way or the other.
 
lehiguy said:
I consider my 75 pound bag of Jeep extractors (tow chains) as balast. I leave them on the passenger side most of the time. Cruisers are always leaning one way or the other.
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Totally agree here. My 60 seems to do what it wants, the lean doesn't really bother me.

I totally need to order something from Kurt, just check out that customer service!
 
all cruisers have the gangster lean. if it don't lean, i can't seem to drive them straight. lmao
 
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