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Recommendations for buying my first 80 series​



I'm looking to buy a vehicle that balances three primary roles: a collector like car (something unique that is not another lifted wrangler,TRD, raptor on the road) that retains/gains value, an occasional off-roader for overlanding/camping in the Ozarks in AR, fun weekend car with my kids (i have 3 and a wife)

I've narrowed my choices down to three very different 80-Series platforms. I would appreciate your input.

open to suggestions on other cars to look also.

📊 The Land Cruiser 80-Series Options​

#1 |Toyota LC (FJ80)|1992 / 140k miles|$17,000|

Upgraded tires & suspension (35"), maintained, NO LOCKERS, no rust, Clean Title. good paint and nice decal match. car is from pueto rico. dr in chicago owned it.

#2
Lexus LX 450 (FZJ80)|1997 / 260k miles|$16,000|

Factory Triple Lockers**, Frame-off restoration on frame/underbody, Semi-engine rebuild (new seals/rings), new radiator, alternator. so owner ran out of money and body is not restored. besides matching rust spots (typical rear rocker and wheel well.)
negative - Illinois SALVAGE Title, Front impact in 1998. needs interior reupholster, paint is ok. its white color

#3 JDM Toyota LC Diesel (1HD-T)|1994 / 144k mi (converted from KM)|$22,000|

Unique Diesel Engine (RHD), Lifted suspension (35"), A/M Rear Locker. Issues: Left rear rocker panel rust, peeling hood clear coat. black car.Clean Title.
 
Lots of variables.

Collector car? Maybe, maybe not. I think these are "collector cars" for a lot of us here in the sense that we're never going to sell them. They don't make vehicles like 80s anymore. But the only ones that are really gaining or retaining a ton of value are late model unmolested, bone stock, rust free low mileage 80s. And the market has been pretty soft lately since the covid rush.

Occasional off-roader, sure. Amazing offroaders. But if you're not careful you'll end up in the garage more than you're on the trail. 80s are reliable and rugged and all but it really comes down to how well it was maintained by the previous owners. My 80 is pretty clean but I still find myself with a laundry list of to-dos just because 30 year old vehicles get old and stuff breaks. But on the upside, once you replace a part with new OEM toyota stuff, you're good for another 30 years.

I've seen people buy 80s thinking they're great for offroading (which they are) and they end up not enjoying the experience because they have a 2 hour drive to a graded forest road, and they realize it would have been a whole lot easier to buy a new 4Runner, spend all the money they would have spent on 80 series maintenance on a bunch of "overland" accessories and call it good.

Wife/kids - just be aware that many 80s don't have airbags. I'm not even sure how effective 30 year old airbags are, but it's something to be aware of.

Will you be doing your own work, or outsourcing to a mechanic? Outsourcing gets pricey fast, and there aren't many shops I'd trust with my 80. DIYing it is 100% doable but it's a commitment. I've never taken my 80 to a mechanic and I didn't grow up working on cars. Learned how to do everything on this forum, YT and the factory service manual.

As far as the cars you're looking at, I'd say adjust your search to Texas and don't even bother with Illinois cars. Too much salt and corrosion up there. If you're looking for a collectable car, you have to find one that's rust free or else you'll be chasing rust issues forever.

#1 - Gonna be slow. You might hate it. Early models aren't really collectable. Other than that, sounds decent but the price is high for an early model.

#2 - Gonna be a little less slow. Half-baked frame off restoration sounds weird, and rust is the #1 Toyota killer. I wouldn't touch it honestly. Also the price is too high for something with that accident history and high mileage

#3 - Cool engine for sure, I have a 1HD-FT in mine and I love it. Seriously the best engine (right after the FTE) but again I wouldn't bother if it has rust. Plenty of clean rust free 80s out there if you look. Also RHD opens up an entirely different can of worms. I did a writeup here:


Take a look through the classifieds on here. If I was in the market I would rather buy a well-maintained enthusiast's car.

 

Recommendations for buying my first 80 series​



I'm looking to buy a vehicle that balances three primary roles: a collector like car (something unique that is not another lifted wrangler,TRD, raptor on the road) that retains/gains value, an occasional off-roader for overlanding/camping in the Ozarks in AR, fun weekend car with my kids (i have 3 and a wife)

I've narrowed my choices down to three very different 80-Series platforms. I would appreciate your input.

open to suggestions on other cars to look also.

📊 The Land Cruiser 80-Series Options​

#1 |Toyota LC (FJ80)|1992 / 140k miles|$17,000|

Upgraded tires & suspension (35"), maintained, NO LOCKERS, no rust, Clean Title. good paint and nice decal match. car is from pueto rico. dr in chicago owned it.

#2
Lexus LX 450 (FZJ80)|1997 / 260k miles|$16,000|

Factory Triple Lockers**, Frame-off restoration on frame/underbody, Semi-engine rebuild (new seals/rings), new radiator, alternator. so owner ran out of money and body is not restored. besides matching rust spots (typical rear rocker and wheel well.)
negative - Illinois SALVAGE Title, Front impact in 1998. needs interior reupholster, paint is ok. its white color

#3 JDM Toyota LC Diesel (1HD-T)|1994 / 144k mi (converted from KM)|$22,000|

Unique Diesel Engine (RHD), Lifted suspension (35"), A/M Rear Locker. Issues: Left rear rocker panel rust, peeling hood clear coat. black car.Clean Title.
None of those sound appealing look for something like this:

The gaa 3fe engine in the 1992 you have has only 150 horsepower. Get a 93 or newer if you get a gas motor unless its a diesel import. Get one without rust. If you are willing to drive a right hand drive import, then that typically gets you the most cool stuff for the least money.
 
100 series for your intended use. No doubt in my mind. Based on my experience with both the 80 series and the 100 series-Wife will go on more than three trips with you in the 100. 80 is the pinnacle, 100 series should be your focus.
 
100 series for your intended use. No doubt in my mind. Based on my experience with both the 80 series and the 100 series-Wife will go on more than three trips with you in the 100. 80 is the pinnacle, 100 series should be your focus.
Yeah I did drive 100 series and it was way better for sure but just didn't have a charm of old 4x4 uniqueness. I already have new silverado as family minivan. My dilemma is that more modern car I drove it was
Id personally pass on all 3 of those. And fwiw, it almost sounds like an early 90's Land Rover defender would be more up your alley.
I did drive 2 XJs, 3 80 series, 2 100 series (LX 470), 2 Gladiators, 1 GX 470, 1 JL wrangler 4 dr,

well kinda drawn into 80 series after driving these. I think defender will be just like XJ, loud, small space.
 
Lots of variables.

Collector car? Maybe, maybe not. I think these are "collector cars" for a lot of us here in the sense that we're never going to sell them. They don't make vehicles like 80s anymore. But the only ones that are really gaining or retaining a ton of value are late model unmolested, bone stock, rust free low mileage 80s. And the market has been pretty soft lately since the covid rush.

Occasional off-roader, sure. Amazing offroaders. But if you're not careful you'll end up in the garage more than you're on the trail. 80s are reliable and rugged and all but it really comes down to how well it was maintained by the previous owners. My 80 is pretty clean but I still find myself with a laundry list of to-dos just because 30 year old vehicles get old and stuff breaks. But on the upside, once you replace a part with new OEM toyota stuff, you're good for another 30 years.

I've seen people buy 80s thinking they're great for offroading (which they are) and they end up not enjoying the experience because they have a 2 hour drive to a graded forest road, and they realize it would have been a whole lot easier to buy a new 4Runner, spend all the money they would have spent on 80 series maintenance on a bunch of "overland" accessories and call it good.

Wife/kids - just be aware that many 80s don't have airbags. I'm not even sure how effective 30 year old airbags are, but it's something to be aware of.

Will you be doing your own work, or outsourcing to a mechanic? Outsourcing gets pricey fast, and there aren't many shops I'd trust with my 80. DIYing it is 100% doable but it's a commitment. I've never taken my 80 to a mechanic and I didn't grow up working on cars. Learned how to do everything on this forum, YT and the factory service manual.

As far as the cars you're looking at, I'd say adjust your search to Texas and don't even bother with Illinois cars. Too much salt and corrosion up there. If you're looking for a collectable car, you have to find one that's rust free or else you'll be chasing rust issues forever.

#1 - Gonna be slow. You might hate it. Early models aren't really collectable. Other than that, sounds decent but the price is high for an early model.

#2 - Gonna be a little less slow. Half-baked frame off restoration sounds weird, and rust is the #1 Toyota killer. I wouldn't touch it honestly. Also the price is too high for something with that accident history and high mileage

#3 - Cool engine for sure, I have a 1HD-FT in mine and I love it. Seriously the best engine (right after the FTE) but again I wouldn't bother if it has rust. Plenty of clean rust free 80s out there if you look. Also RHD opens up an entirely different can of worms. I did a writeup here:


Take a look through the classifieds on here. If I was in the market I would rather buy a well-maintained enthusiast's car.

dang thank you for all this info.
yeah its kinda weird half baked restoration. Seller ran out of money to go in full on engine rebuild.

the other 2 aren't from chicago. Dr owned car is from pueto rico and he never drove in snow. frame and body was clean.
 
dang thank you for all this info.
yeah its kinda weird half baked restoration. Seller ran out of money to go in full on engine rebuild.

the other 2 aren't from chicago. Dr owned car is from pueto rico and he never drove in snow. frame and body was clean.
Don't hesitate to check other states. Getting the right one out of state is easier than getting one that needs more work most times.
 
I’m in California and have a clean 1994 that I’m going to sell. Zero rust, OME lift, 209,009 miles. Dead reliable no leaks rides great, AC blows cold, great Sony stereo w/backup camera. BFG 33’s on steelies and custom painted black bumpers

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I live in the area and have similar situation. I’ve got 2 toddlers, wife, and dog. Best bet is to be patient. Ended up shipping mine in from Louisiana. Bone stock. My requirements were zero rust and clean title. A lot of work has since been put into this truck but I know quality parts were used and it was done right.

I’d look for a bone stock rig or a truck that was owned by an enthusiast as mentioned here.
 
a collector like car

that retains/gains value

IMHO an 80 ain't that unless -

- It is a late model, has been kept 100% original, garaged all its life, is low miles, and has zero rust, pristine original paint, pristine interior, pristine under body, pristine engine bay AND
- you keep it that way.

For this, you'll expect to pay big money.

For anything else, any gain in value will come from you sinking thousands into fixing deferred maintenance, replacing written interior, respraying faded paint. All fun stuff to do, but seeking a gain in value through this is a fools errand.

Find the cleanest example you can justify the price of, and be prepared to sink thousands into fixing deferred maintenance, and fixing 30 years of detritus.

A cheap 80 ain't gonna be cheap in the long haul
 
I live in the area and have similar situation. I’ve got 2 toddlers, wife, and dog. Best bet is to be patient. Ended up shipping mine in from Louisiana. Bone stock. My requirements were zero rust and clean title. A lot of work has since been put into this truck but I know quality parts were used and it was done right.

I’d look for a bone stock rig or a truck that was owned by an enthusiast as mentioned here.
Nice. So what are the things you had to do for repair / maintenance wise? Just anything besides offroad stuff.
 
IMHO an 80 ain't that unless -

- It is a late model, has been kept 100% original, garaged all its life, is low miles, and has zero rust, pristine original paint, pristine interior, pristine under body, pristine engine bay AND
- you keep it that way.

For this, you'll expect to pay big money.

For anything else, any gain in value will come from you sinking thousands into fixing deferred maintenance, replacing written interior, respraying faded paint. All fun stuff to do, but seeking a gain in value through this is a fools errand.

Find the cleanest example you can justify the price of, and be prepared to sink thousands into fixing deferred maintenance, and fixing 30 years of detritus.

A cheap 80 ain't gonna be cheap in the long haul
Yeah I said it wrong here. Wasn't really looking for collector museum piece but more of something unique and I can spend money on but won't lose value. There are some clean rust free ones im getting dms on. I won't buy those 3 I posted. Thanks to all of forum members inputs.
 
Nice. So what are the things you had to do for repair / maintenance wise? Just anything besides offroad stuff.
Well.. it was a slippery slope. One thing led to another and ended up rebuilding the motor. In addition, the whole braking system, front and rear axles, $teering box, and most bushings throughout the suspension.
 
Well.. it was a slippery slope. One thing led to another and ended up rebuilding the motor. In addition, the whole braking system, front and rear axles, $teering box, and most bushings throughout the suspension.
Which is why Im trying to buy one already baselined and built. 🤞
 
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