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lostmarbles, you're a champion.
Here's a pic of my EDIC, it's not like the one above. It simply has a single standard male blade clip connector at the back.
Maybe this is the EDIC controller?
At long last we have someone to show us what a 40-series diesel looks like when it has a factory-fitted overinjection magnet and factory-fitted "engine stop button".
(You don't have any EDIC system there at all!)
Perhaps I've simply missed previous threads but that's hard to believe considering the amount of time I spend in the 40 section and diesel section...
Up until this point in time I've just puzzled over those features and wondered which markets, if any, really got them...
We need to see much more of your cruiser!!!! P-L-E-A-S-E!
I'd like to see you starting a thread to show it off and so we can start finding out where in the world Toyota sent them (instead of EDIC-equipped versions).
Was your BJ40 sold new in Ireland?
Here's a pic of the "Engine Stop Button" (for a LH-drive cruiser) that's from the original owners manual that came with my 1979 12V RH-drive BJ40:
I don't have one of those because Toyota fitted the EDIC system to my cruiser instead.
And here's a wiring diagram for an over-injection magnet system:
That black box you were thinking may be your EDIC relay is actually your Glow Relay. (And the black box below it is your start relay.)
Note that the overinjection magnet is simply there to give your engine extra fuel while cranking to make it start easier (and puke a nice big puff of carcinogenic black fog into your pristine Irish air).
And some pics of your overinjection magnet from the 1976 B-engine FSM 98082:
If I was you I'd keep yours factory original and forget about being able to turn your engine off with the key.
If your authorities think it should be able to turn off with the key (and threaten to fail your road-worthiness-certificate on this basis) then we have the evidence that your set-up is factory-original (and no stupid inspector has the right to force such a modification on a CLASSIC VEHICLE).
(But if you yourself want to be able to turn your engine off with the key .. without pressure from your authorities .. then you'd have the major task of sourcing a 24V EDIC relay, 24V 2-plug EDIC motor/gearbox, etc and then the not-that-simple task of wiring it all up.)
Are you sure your BJ40 is a 1979. Some of the things here make it look earlier to me..
Hi Guys, I'm a newbie to this forum stuff and hope its ok to put my 2 cents in here.
Ive got a "79 BJ40 that I have rebuilt from the ground up. I have been running the engine with the EDIC control lever removed and have been switching it off manually under the hood. Now that we are close to putting it back on the road I have discovered it has a "79 BJ42 fuel control relay instead of a BJ40 relay and the 42 just isn't compatible.
Any idea where I can get a replacement relay from?
Thanks, Carl.
Ive got a "79 BJ40 that I have rebuilt from the ground up. I have been running the engine with the EDIC control lever removed and have been switching it off manually under the hood. Now that we are close to putting it back on the road I have discovered it has a "79 BJ42 fuel control relay instead of a BJ40 relay and the 42 just isn't compatible.
Any idea where I can get a replacement relay from?
Thanks, Carl.
Hi FJCriuzing
The best advice I can offer is to keep a lookout for anyone wrecking a BJ40 on trademe. I used to have a contact down your way that I got a lot of spare parts from and I found him from his trademe ads. (But that was prior to the earthquake and I've lost his contact details now as I haven't had the need to get any spare parts in recent times and already have practically everything I want in that department.)
eBay in Australia is another good source.
You're after 28590-56060
Oh. Just did a bit of a search..
Peter's got one here right now for $185.50 aussi dollars:
http://www.tojo4wdcentre.com.au/par...060-relay-fuel-control-landcruiser-bj40-hj45-
But maybe you don't want to spend that much?
Thank you lostmarbles.
Took me 1/2 dozen phone calls to lead me to a dead end of Discontinued from toyota.
I might have to get a relay rod there 2 unless any1 has 1. A clip is missing off the end of mine & it is currently MIA.
Took me 1/2 dozen phone calls to lead me to a dead end of Discontinued from toyota.
I might have to get a relay rod there 2 unless any1 has 1. A clip is missing off the end of mine & it is currently MIA.
By the way ... I forgot to say WELCOME to ih8mud.
Nice to see someone else in this country with a BJ40 they're working on and planning on keeping.
If you can find the time to post them, I'm sure others besides me would love to see some photos..
Cheers - Tom
Hi Tom.
I have worked out I have the right Fuel Control Relay 28590-56060 but have the wrong EDIC motor. The FCR wiring is identical to the loom wiring and is working fine when tested.
I need to source an Edic motor for a 1979 BJ40. Running a B Engine (3L Diesel).
Any idea where I can find it?
The motor I have runs fine but is for the BJ42 and is wired differently to the FCR.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not good at searching for this stuff online.
Thanks, Carl.
I have worked out I have the right Fuel Control Relay 28590-56060 but have the wrong EDIC motor. The FCR wiring is identical to the loom wiring and is working fine when tested.
I need to source an Edic motor for a 1979 BJ40. Running a B Engine (3L Diesel).
Any idea where I can find it?
The motor I have runs fine but is for the BJ42 and is wired differently to the FCR.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not good at searching for this stuff online.
Thanks, Carl.
Hi Carl.
So you have the single-connector BJ42 EDIC motor and need the earlier two-connector version like mine I assume?
That's 28571-56030.
The main identifying factors as far as I know is that it must be 12V and have two electrical connectors instead of just one..
You could try Peter at Tojo 4WD Centre even though he doesn't list one currently.
Here's one I believe (based on the image I see) at Cruiser Parts (even though they appear to list it incorrectly as being for a 3B):
Hi Tom,
Wondering if I can fit a manual cutoff cable to the edic motor to stop the engine. I'm guessing this should be fine during summer not having the magnet advance for cold starts. Seems to start ok with edic disconnected using glow plugs.
Then keep looking for a replacement edic motor. Im going to contact cruiserparts.net & see if they still have the 3b edic.
Cheers, Carl.
Wondering if I can fit a manual cutoff cable to the edic motor to stop the engine. I'm guessing this should be fine during summer not having the magnet advance for cold starts. Seems to start ok with edic disconnected using glow plugs.
Then keep looking for a replacement edic motor. Im going to contact cruiserparts.net & see if they still have the 3b edic.
Cheers, Carl.
Hi again Carl
Yep. Lots of people remove both their EDIC relay and EDIC motor and just use a cable to control the little lever on their IP. (Just perform a search on ih8mud and you'll find many threads on the subject I'm sure.)
Shame you have to look so far afield for an EDIC motor... There must be some lying around on unwanted engines in this country. But finding them is the difficult part of course.
Good luck...
Hi Carl
The cable needs to be a PTO type cable so you can leave it out by 1/4 inch so you have full control of the injection pump. Push the cable all the way in and you have enrich start. Once the engine starts pull back 1/4 inch for run position. When you want to shut engine down pull cable all the way back. This set up also can give the engine more fuel on hills etc by pushing the cable back in for fuel enrichment like on start but once on flat ground pull back 1/4 inch to run position.
The cable needs to be a PTO type cable so you can leave it out by 1/4 inch so you have full control of the injection pump. Push the cable all the way in and you have enrich start. Once the engine starts pull back 1/4 inch for run position. When you want to shut engine down pull cable all the way back. This set up also can give the engine more fuel on hills etc by pushing the cable back in for fuel enrichment like on start but once on flat ground pull back 1/4 inch to run position.
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Hi Tom,
Thanks, if you have timr, can you please send the part number from your edic motor & its matching relay as I think I have a 42 relay. I have been in contact with cruiserparts.net and they can provide a rebuild motherboard if I provide the correct relay number.
They also have the control lever from edic to IP.
Thanks, Carl.
Thanks, if you have timr, can you please send the part number from your edic motor & its matching relay as I think I have a 42 relay. I have been in contact with cruiserparts.net and they can provide a rebuild motherboard if I provide the correct relay number.
They also have the control lever from edic to IP.
Thanks, Carl.
Thanks, I will save this, at this point i'm still gunning to get the matching relay & set it up as original.
What do you mean by pto type cable (power take off) as in winch engage cable, I dont have a pto drive or cable.
I have the relay # & EDIC # see attached photo. Can anyone confirm that they do or don't match?
The edic connects to the dual connections & matches the wiring & when tested operates but the relay seems to be wired differently to my loom but seems to have the right serial number.
If a previous owner changed the loom i'm in the s***!
The edic connects to the dual connections & matches the wiring & when tested operates but the relay seems to be wired differently to my loom but seems to have the right serial number.
If a previous owner changed the loom i'm in the s***!
My EDIC relay is 28590-56060 (according to the Toyota because I haven't had it out to read the number off it).
My EDIC motor is definitely 28571-56030. Unlike the relay (which is hard to get at), I can even confirm this with a photo:
Well that relay sure seems to match what the EPC says I have too (if it is 28590-56060).
And this proves that Toyota says 56060 is the right one:
So what do you mean by "wired differently".
Maybe I should try and pull mine out and check the number on it for you?
Where did you get that relay from? Mine is not black in colour.. Here's mine... Well all I can currently see of it anyway:
Oops. Wrong photo.... Try again...
Mine was that colour. Went mad with spray paint a few years ago.My EDIC relay is 28590-56060 (according to the Toyota because I haven't had it out to read the number off it).
My EDIC motor is definitely 28571-56030. Unlike the relay (which is hard to get at), I can even confirm this with a photo:
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Well that relay sure seems to match what the EPC says I have too (if it is 28590-56060).
And this proves that Toyota says 56060 is the right one:
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So what do you mean by "wired differently".
Maybe I should try and pull mine out and check the number on it for you?
Where did you get that relay from? Mine is not black in colour.. Here's mine... Well all I can currently see of it anyway:
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Oops. Wrong photo.... Try again...
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I will try upload a couple pics of the relay & loom wiring.
That's a photo of both sides of my fuel control relay connection plug showing FCR & Loom wiring.
The only wire that doesn't match is 2nd from right in first photo FCR has Red wire Blue stripe, loom has Black wire Yellow stripe!
The only wire that doesn't match is 2nd from right in first photo FCR has Red wire Blue stripe, loom has Black wire Yellow stripe!
